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New to the sport, opinions and second hand guide prices on my choices

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by Will Hay, Jul 15, 2014.

  1. Will Hay

    Will Hay Well-Known Member

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    I'm getting closer.
    I'm narrowing down my rifle choices and currently have the S400, BSA super ten, the new Walther R8 and maybe the R10.
    I know the R8 is £399.99 new but I'd be grateful if someone could give me an idea of second hand prices for the others?
    Let's assume a scope is included and all in .177 calibre.
    Any advice would be appreciated, along with opinion on my rifle choices.
     
  2. cloverleaf

    cloverleaf Super Moderator Staff Member Mod/Admin

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    Let's not assume a 'scope is included as values can vary widely and assumptions only muddy the water :)

    As a rule a decent rifle in decent nick that's behaving itself is typically worth around 2/3rds of its new value. Based on that, I'd expect to pay the following for a decent example of each rifle with no accessories:

    S400 beech: £250-300. Not without their faults but a good, capable, mostly-competently-designed workhorse.
    Superten, beech: £225-300. I personally wouldn't give a tenner for one mind - if you ever have one to bits you'll quickly see why.
    R10 Walnut: £400-550. Similar criticisms to the S10, if you must get one do your homework and test it thoroughly (esp. with a chrono) before parting with cash.

    Will be interested to see what the R8 turns out like. Aesthetically it looks good but I suspect it'll basically be a nasty Airmagnum action with an air bottle lashed onto the front - typical Umarex tat that's made of soft alloy castings and plastic that will ultimately wear out or break.. will reserve proper judgement until I've seen one, though :p

    As for more opinions on the rifles you list, the forum search facility is your friend ;)
     
  3. Will Hay

    Will Hay Well-Known Member

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    Oh dear.
    I was hoping there would be one stand out that was perfect for a new starter.
    Thanks for your help, I'll keep doing that which I've done since joining; reading, reading, changing my mind, reading.
     
  4. mikey

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    You also have to consider that one a rifle will fit one person and not another.my advice would be to shoulder the rifles in your list and possibally more and buy the one that fits you best.
     
  5. Cymru-Dave

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    For a starter and at reasonable new price I'd recommend then S400, also lots of second hand ones about with all the kit going with it for not a lot more.
     
  6. keithy

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    I would also add the HW100 VERY RELIABLE £450 to £500 second hand.
     
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    Will - WHY those choices on your shortlist? What were the criteria you selected them by? The answers to those questions might yield more advise.

    My suggestion would be to wait a little longer, save a little more and buy ONCE wisely. Instead of looking for a "starter" rifle and then upgrading in a year (or less) be really choosy now and buy a rifle that will last you 20+ years. My Rapid has been with me since 1991. It got new seals for the first time about 3 years ago. It was utterly reliable before then andwasn't leakinng, I just fancied getting it "serviced"!
     
  8. tintin

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    Get yourself down to your local air rifle club, introduce yourself, explain that you need some help in picking a suitable rifle. They will fall over themselves to give you help, even down to letting you try out their kit.
     
  9. Ganton Gunner

    Ganton Gunner Super Duper Moderator Staff Member Mod/Admin

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    hmm think you will find a lot of people who are not starters have s400's and rate them quite highly
     
  10. PJHIZZLE

    PJHIZZLE Engaging Member

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    Definitely join a club and have a few visits. I made the mistake of diving in and purchasing a duff rifle in the wrong calibre cos it looked nice, then one that didn't fit me properly. As soon as I joined a club I was able to try, as well as view loads of different set ups and eventually settled on a rifle that ticked all the boxes for my chosen shooting style/discipline.

    You also get the advantage of looking through different scopes, which can be a real eye opener (pun most definitely intended)

    P.s. - one more vote for the HW100 if your funds can stretch a bit. Buy once, cry once.

    Peter
     
  11. mattyts

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    S400,enough said
     
  12. Will Hay

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    Thanks.
    I've just visited a fellow forum member who had four very impressive rifles.
    Three PCP and one springer.
    The standout PCP was a 510, stunning and just felt right.

    To answer the valid question as to why my choices shown above.
    Aesthetics and initial appeal.

    I have to start somewhere and until I start to pick them up have to narrow down the criteria.

    I won't be happy with a gun I don't find a thing of beauty.

    I'm going to visit East Adsley, Ilkley and Giuseley gun club and then, if I don't find what I need second hand, Redbeck [correct?] gun supplies store in Wakefield.
     
  13. mattyts

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    Redbeck have nearly all the guns you've listed,except the S10.

    I also happen to know they have lots of second hand 400s and I think,1 R10 in second hand.
     
  14. Will Hay

    Will Hay Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for the heads up on Redbeck.
     
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    The s400/410 or 510 will give you great service and are simple to work on once the anti tamper (should it be present) is removed.
    No reg to worry about and nothing that aint a simple fix! I'll keep one rifle with me forever.........you guessed it!;)
     

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