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Question New to the airgun world, got a couple questions

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by Tritton, Aug 10, 2014.

  1. Tritton

    Tritton Member

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    So a little about me and back ground. Been shooting though Scouting since i was a Cub scouts. I'm now a Scout leader my self and have recently got my NSRA youth proficiency scheme qualification. And only recently brought my own airguns. so in short my experience is only really of 10m target shooting.

    I would like to get into a lot more areas of shooting.
    So first question.
    whats the difference between FT and HFT. I have had look on wiki so i understand the basic differance in terms of rules, but how would you describe the difference.

    2nd question, what the differance between the mag's air gunner and air gun worlds. I have read a couple but not sure what the cater for.

    Thanks in advance of any advise

    Regards
    Ryan
     
  2. Tinbum

    Tinbum Delusions of adequacy

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    Hello and welcome.

    First and best advice I can give you is: Go along to a local club! You will get to see, and probably try, lots of kit and get to talk to people about what they have, what they've had and what to avoid.

    The mags are ok, but it's generally held that any review you read in there will be glowing, so take it with a pinch of salt. (I believe some have even bought BSA Springers after reading that they represent "good value for money"!!!!:eek::eek:)
     
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  3. chevin

    chevin Keyboard Hero

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    Welcome to the forum, Tinbums advice is bang on.
    All the best
     
  4. gasman

    gasman Up a bit,,,,,,,

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    FT you can use your px on your scope to range find and then zero your scope in to that range so you shoot bang on you cross hairs, HFT you can't touch your scope,you have to astimate your range, and then use your mildots to hold over or under to hit your target, hope that makes sinse
     
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    :welcome: to the forum.
     
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    milek Honorary Member

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    I usually try and defend the magazines as a presence is better than none at all until I recently read about that Bezzant fellow in airgunner attempting to describe his white quad bike as a "stealthy" way to hunt.
     
  7. OzzyJ

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    Welcome to the forum Ryan from another Aylesburian.
    You would be welcome to come along to my club and I can show you first hand the difference between HFT and FT, I shoot both with varying degrees of success. We also shoot 10m pistol, pistol HFT and silouttes.
    you would be welcome to come along on a sunday morning and have a cup of tea and one of Dees sausage rolls:D
     
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    Did you see the letter in the front of Augusts issue complaining that all he ever talks about is gunpower stealths, i think he might be told to talk about something else for a while:D
     
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    I did J but the bloke still came back with some sort of harness with which to attach to his stealth. I don't blame him; I blame the editor. No more purchases of that garbage again.
     
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    ...quickly googles club
    Sounds goods, being that theres a couple of cubs around us what do you know of them.

    you guy are problery right with visiting a cub, just wanted to get idea of the differance being there is a few clubs to choose from.

    As for mags, from what i can tell from looking at the couple i have air gunner seems to have more review while seem to be more mixed bag and more technical stuff.
    Im not really looking for reviews in a mag im just interested all manor of things
    (ok not sure if that last bit made since)
     
  11. OzzyJ

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    You have Wendover (I learnt to shoot there) but restrictions on numbers of members meant it was difficult to be anything other than a visitor, Milton Keynes I shot there for a month or so but little in the way of competitions or the social aspects. Finally settled on North Oxon after a quick visit a year ago as very social, lots of comps and met some good friends there. Not sure of any others that are too close.

    As for mags, I got them all when I first started but found this forum and havent bought regularly since as found out all I needed to know from the good members here and the guys at my club.
     
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    looks like i might be paying you a visit Sunday then :)
     
  13. darklord

    darklord Can’t beat a tx200 at 30m

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    AIrgunner used to be good. started getting it from issue 2 for about two years then gave up on the mags. pick the odd one up now and then, I don't learn anything but there way to much on killing stuff in them now and camp this and camp that. not for me anymore.

    Welcome the forum and enjoy north oxon, they sound a friendly bunch.
     
  14. Accuspell

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    Welcome to the friendliest airgun forum, bar some of the owners clubs. You will gain plenty of information, and entertainment from time to time, on here. Congratulations on your coaching award - my son is a scout leader too, but he has concentrated on his W ticket and mountain leaders award. It sounds like your troop is another active one.

    Nobody has mentioned Airgun Shooter yet - a lot more varied stuff in there each month. A couple of hunting features, but some target stuff on various disciplines, ringing the changes, practical tuning step-by-steps, all sorts to provide something of interest for everyone. It isn't as instant as this forum, but you can pick a magazine up at anytime, read what suits you according to your mood at the time.
     
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    never seen airgun shooting, will have a look if i come across it.

    As for scouting not stopping at shooting, working on climbing/ML/archery want to do it all :)
     
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    Is that the **** that keeps banging on about gun powers being the best guns in the world and even tried to say in one issue that 12ft lb from a gunpower rifle is more than 12ft lb from any other rifle ? Sorry no he didn't try to say it he did say it what a tit. Looks a bit of a hooligan too not a good image for the sport.
     
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  17. Clubshot

    Clubshot Clubshot

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    As more Get into Air Guns and need somewhere to Shoot - current Gun Clubs are pretty Full

    But make room for New Shooters

    Several have tried to set up Shooting Ranges - But Few are willing or able to Afford their Green Fees

    We have several Scout Leaders who are currently using Our Club Faclities - And enjoying the Sport & Chat

    Great when you have - Several Ranges & Woods & a Large Club House and inhouse Caters

    And piles are most known Air Gun Magazines to read with Drink & Food

    BOB/R

    www.lvagc.co.uk
     
  18. Chinnymonster81

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    No one asked, but are you looking at this from an individual perspective or as something that the scouts can do in addition to 10m rifle? The biggest difference between HFT and FT is that in HFT you get 1 point for hitting the target plate and 2 for a knockdown. FT its all or nothing. You will spend more on equipment for FT than you would for HFT as FT really requires big mag high quality optics for accurate range finding where HFT you just want a 10x milldot scope and you are away. Either way as has been advised take a trip down to a local club and form your own opinion. Oh and HFT has a lot of prone shooting which come winter is mucky as hell.

    All the best.
     
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    I don't think that the Scouting organisation are allowed to shoot targets that represent living things. So without adaptation or simply taking part as individuals HFT of FT are out of the Question.
    Regards Stu.
     
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    Quite agree, one article a month on hunting is quite sufficient in my view as they probably would only help the novice hunter anyway, experienced hunters probably wouldn't bother reading it.They should have more articles on maintenance,the history of different manufacturers and their guns and pellets.Tests(honest, realistic ones)on guns and related equipment would be good.Tips on shooting an air rifle would also help those new to the sport as well
     
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