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Advice New to shooting? Some frequently asked questions and their answers...

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by Jackroadkill, Mar 30, 2013.

  1. WilyOldBuck

    WilyOldBuck Newbie

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    Thank you for this informative guide. I'm so new to this pastime,
     
  2. rabbitwrecker

    rabbitwrecker Black Latex Matters...

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  3. WifeWontLetMeGetanAirgun

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    What a brilliant thread.
    Gutted I can't "control" those damned seagulls that plague our house/cars/nick kids food though!
     
  4. themadspread

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    last time I looked there is one type of gull on the general license
     
  5. SaltyC

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    From 1st Jan 2017 you WILL need a licenceto use possess purchase or acquire an air "weapon" (even under 12 foot pound energy) in Scotland.
     
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  6. MancTony

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    I'm a newbie and that was a great read. Nice one mate, a well written piece.
     
  7. Jackroadkill

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    I've updated the OP to take account of the new Scottish AWL; a big thanks to Squirrelhunter for his guidance and input in this area.
     
  8. Slipperneave

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    Well done great intro to the sport all together in one place well done . Rod
     
  9. Oddsox

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    Brilliant thanks
     
  10. samwatsonnn

    samwatsonnn Newbie

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    Great advice new to shooting but this has helped a lot! Thanks.
     
  11. zzubnik

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    Thanks for posting these tips. As a beginner it has saved me from asking these questions, which must get asked over and over.
     
  12. atyl1972

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    What an amazing piece of advice for newcomers, thoroughly enjoyed reading that and seconds everything that I have read prior to joining this forum, well said sir.
     
  13. GPConway

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    I've spotted a few errors in the 'How powerful are air rifles and pistols allowed to be in the UK?' section:

    The definition or measurement of muzzle energy have nothing to do with pressure. Clearly, the units are incorrect since pressure is expressed as force (Lb) per unit area (Ft²) whereas energy [aka. work done] has units of distance (Ft) multiplied by force (Lb).
    The units of energy are expressed as Ft⋅Lb or Ft.Lb or sometimes as FtLb (or even FPE if you’re a fan of the more confusing American three letter acronyms), i.e., distance (Ft) multiplied by force (Lb) ... definitely not Lb/Ft² - as your explanation would have it - or the similarly nonsensical 'Ft/Lb' as frequently seen on this (and other) forums and websites.

    Furthermore, power is defined as 'work done per unit time', i.e., Ft⋅Lb⋅s⁻¹ (or Ft.Lb/s)
    The terms 'energy' and 'power' are obviously related (as above) but not interchangeable.
    For example, if rifle A has barrel length = 9", rifle B has barrel length = 18" and they both expel a 8.44 Grain pellet with a muzzle velocity of 800 Ft/s (yielding muzzle energy = ~11.99 Ft⋅Lb) then rifle A would have a power of ~ 6395 Ft⋅Lb⋅s⁻¹ = ~ 8670 Watt and rifle B ~ 3197 Ft⋅Lb⋅s⁻¹ = ~ 4335 Watt.

    Your section title 'How powerful are air rifles and pistols allowed to be in the UK?' would more correctly read 'How energetic are air rifles and pistols allowed to be in the UK?' since it is muzzle energy - not power - that suffers regulation under UK law.

    Perhaps something along the lines of ...

    "What is the maximum muzzle energy allowed in the UK?

    The legal energy limit for air rifles is 12 Ft・Lb (aka. Foot Pound Energy) at the muzzle. The muzzle energy of pistols is limited by law to 6 Ft⋅Lb. 12 Ft⋅Lb is the work done in lifting a 1 Lb weight through a distance of 12 Feet (or lifting a 12 pound weight 1 Foot, etc.). Muzzle Velocity (and, given the projectile weight, the Energy) can be measured with a device known as a chronograph, which can be purchased at some UK gun shops or from various on-line sources."

    ... would do the job.

    I hope this helps,

    George
     
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  14. Squidwards Ghost

    Squidwards Ghost Needs professional help.

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    Great advice thanks :up:
     
  15. If you really wanted to you can also carry it on a bus to and from a range/permission
     
  16. Keefy Bodinnar

    Keefy Bodinnar Newbie

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    Hi All, New to Shooting and already have the bug.

    I have got myself some insurance, an Air Arms S510 and over the last few months i have joined a few clubs which have been fantastic for advice and friendship but thought i would broaden my horizons.

    Anyone in or around Coventry that ever wants to go for a shoot or have some recommendations for somewhere to shoot please feel free to get in touch.

    I hope i can be of assistance and will contribute as much as i can with the small amount of knowledge i currently have.

    Please dont roast my first post !! :D
     
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  17. Disabled Not Unable

    Disabled Not Unable Permanent Noob

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    Hi.
    As a new member I have found this most helpful and interesting.
    Thank you
     
  18. dwc65

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    Very useful information thank you
     
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    Boss! :thumb:
     
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    What about ISSF rifles for shooting, they punch above 12 ftlbs but from what I have read, are a set weight at 5.5 Lbs compared to other rifles that are 7 or 8lbs in weight.
     

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