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New To Airgun Wich One Should I Buy

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by Jackt0169, Apr 3, 2020.

  1. Jackt0169

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    Hey,
    I live in the Netherlands i have an big backyard and was interested in an airgun around 300 euro. After watching some yt video's and searching for 2 days i am not sure what to buy first i found the: gamo replay 10 magnum 5,5mm
    As i was searching for an airgun that could shoot FAR. it seems like an good airgun for me as it has a lot of Joule ( idk if this has to do with it and a lot of fps ).
    But then i searched their site up and then i just didnt know what to buy:
    http://www.gamo.com/productos/carabinas/
    There were so many different guns around the same price range.
    ( btw i want my airgun to have an scope on it ).
    do you guys have any advice for me as i dont really care that it shoots 10 x with reloading as it is usefull i just want an airgun that can shoot far and also do some damage not really needed but would be cool also i got an question i could choose between an
    4,5 mm and an 5,5 mm ( 1.77 ) (22) whats the difference between those? as 4,5 has more m/s does that mean the 5,5 bullet is bigger and heavier?

    Thx btw i have never had an airgun before i dont know what the terms mean i did search some stuff up. It doesnt really have to be an gamo airgun btw i just found it on the main page of an page selling it.

    I just found out there is an gamo replay 10 magnum igt gen2 whats the difference? as it looks different as the gamo replay 10 magnum 5,5 mm i found this is it btw: https://www.airgunseurope.com/gamo-replay-10-magnum-5-5mm-airgun.html
     
  2. Bladesmith

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    Hi I’d say the best thing to do is to go look and feel some rifle in a shop the problem with that is are your shops in shut down like ours. Another thing is with that budget your not going to get a decent enough gun to be very accurate at distance, see if there are people selling second hand ones you’ll get a good second hand underlever like a tx200 or a hw97 both very accurate ok
     
  3. BallisticBill

    BallisticBill Too much keyboard, not enough action!

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    I don't know what legal restrictions you have in the Netherlands. If you have power limits that will influence your choice.

    If you want a flat trajectory you need to be looking at muzzle velocity rather than power. Pellets will start to loose stability if the muzzle velocity is higher than 280-290m/sec. At the same muzzle velocity you will get a slightly better trajectory from 5.5mm.

    If you are simply looking to shoot at targets at long distance my advice is as follows.
    Up to 24 joules you would be better looking at 4.5mm than 5.5mm. Above 24 joules you need 5mm or 5.5mm
    For example, 24 joules in 4.5mm will give 270m/sec with a heavy pellet.
    To achieve 270m/sec with 5.5mm you would need in the region of 45-50 joules depending on pellet weight.

    Buying a spring rifle, the recoil and accuracy become more difficult to manage as the power increases. Larger calibres run smoother than smaller calibres at the same power. So a 16J 5.5mm will run smoother than a 16J 4.5mm. If you want a similar trajectory from the 5.5mm the extra power needed will make the action much harsher, probably worse than the 16J 4.5mm.
     
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  4. Rob-ontarget

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    I don’t think they have any power limits in NL, just no replica’s and no hunting with air allowed...
    I might be wrong as I was told that a few years ago..

    Check out Krale for a lot of options..
    https://www.krale.shop/en/

    Gamo don’t have a very good reputation, you are probably better off looking at Weihrauch or Hatsan..
     
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  5. Jackt0169

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    Jup there are no power limits
     
  6. Jackt0169

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    Couldnt find any second hand ones well some are to pricy some are really bad ones also i could go for around 400 euro to if that is needed for An good airgun or maybe even 500 but i need to think about that then as im not rich sadly...
     
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    When you say shoot far how far you thinking?
     
  9. BallisticBill

    BallisticBill Too much keyboard, not enough action!

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    So I can't give you advice on best springer at, say, 40J, other than it won't be 4.5mm.

    I know what I'd do with a PCP... go for high power in the bigger calibre.
    For a break barrel springer I'd choose a used Weihrauch (HW80) over a new Gamo.
     
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    I am not sure after im done working i can send An picture of my backyard with An Line i would like it to reach if you know what in getting as idk how long my backyard is .
     
  11. Bladesmith

    Bladesmith Keyboard Hero

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    H
    ow many meters
     
  12. Jackt0169

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    If i have to take a wild guess about 100 meters. But im not sure
     
  13. NaughtyBadCal

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    Ah right I’m not sure on law other there but here 12ftlbs is are legal limit for rifles realistically there shooting 60yds accurately depends on the shooter as well.
     
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    Wow go for the best you can afford a used hw or aa springers
     
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    I AM not sure what to buy right now the only thing i know its better to buy An pcp air rifle
     
  16. BallisticBill

    BallisticBill Too much keyboard, not enough action!

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    My father used to tune had springers, occasionally up to 32J (5.5mm), but owners usually wanted to run them at lower power. I don't have a lot of personal experience of these high powered springers but I have been able to get 50mm groups at 70m. I don't think you will be able to get good accuracy at longer ranges. If you want reasonable accuracy out to 100m you need a PCP, 5.5mm around 40J minimum... or larger calibre 0.25", 60J.
     
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    I tend to avoid Gamo products like the plague...
     
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    I heard someone say buy the Weihrauch HW95 is that an good choice? Im not sure what scope to buy with it or what bullets but it seems ok?? I am not sure about this do you guys think it is an good gun or...?
    https://www.krale.shop/en/weihrauch-hw95/
    It is sadly out of stock :(
     
  19. Bladesmith

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    The hw95 is probably one of the best break barrels made
     
  20. Jackt0169

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    Ok thx, i am not sure what to buy so my brothers friend recommended this one as he has this as his first ever air gun so thats why i got this one
    Oke thx seems like an good choice then? Maybe later i will switch to an PCP when i am ready for an different one as right now its a bit confussing thx for all the help everyone i will let you guys know when i bought it and what i think of it but its out of stock now i just have to go and find a good scope and ammo as idk what scope i can put on it and whats a good one also with ammo because there is a LOT of choice :)
     

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