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New Rifle guidance

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by jhnbrty1978, Mar 3, 2008.

  1. jhnbrty1978

    jhnbrty1978 Active Member

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    Hello guys,

    I am looking to getting back into airgun shooting after 10+years away from it and i need some guidance. I have a budget of around £400 and i am looking for a rifle for primarily hunting/vermin control i have done the hard part and found myself a massive shoot in my area. Now all i need is a setup.:eek:

    I was initially looking at a low end PCP but i have convinced myself that with all the hassle of filling ect and as i am starting again i have decided to go for a high end springer this is where you guys come in below i have listed a couple of rifles i am looking at:

    Air Arms TX200 possible HC .22:confused:
    Air Arms Pro Sport .22:confused:
    Weihrauch H97K .22:confused:

    I will also need a scope and bits out of the budget aswell.


    Question

    What high end springer would you recommend for my situation?:confused:



    Thank you in advance for any input:up:


    Let the arguements commence.


    Cheers


    John
     
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    What kind of environment are you going to be shooting in, e.g. small confined spaces or the open-outdoors? What are you going to be shooting?
     
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    My shoot has large open fields,woodland and scrubland.

    Quarry will be rabbits, woodies, rats, crows & squirrels.

    John
     
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    If you want to go venturing through the woodland, and if it's heavy woodland, then you might want to consider a carbine of some sort as these are easier to handle because they're shorter. Be aware though that accuracy can be effected very slightly; carbines save the length from the barrel.

    If you're looking to spend £400 on a gun and a scope, then I'd recommend the Air Arms TX200 (HC or standard, up to you) or the Weihrauch HW97K. You could go for the slightly older but equally brilliant HW77/HW77K.

    With the Pro Sport, you're paying the extra for a slight difference in performance - there's apparently not much, so you might want to save the money there.

    Get either of the rifles I mentioned and you won't be disappointed; spend another £100+ on a scope and you'll have a good setup.

    One last thing - I'd suggest going for .177 instead of .22 as this calibre is better for longer ranges.
     
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    .177 will have more recoil and you may find a few rabbits don't go down, .22 will have more energy at the target. :up:
     
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    That's true, .22 carries more energy with it but drops quicker as it's heavier. There's no 'best' calibre as we all know, so it's up to you, I'm just recommending a .177.
     
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    why not go for a secondhand pcp 400 might get you a gun scope and pump if you look around much better than a springer
     
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    This is also a possibility, yes. PCPs are better for hunting, especially multi-shot ones.

    There are a few PCPs that retail for under or around 300, however buying one of these new with a scope won't leave you enough for a pump/bottle.

    Like Topcat said, try second hand if you don't want a springer.
     
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    I can recommend BSA XL Lightning Tactical - got one myself a year ago. Shoots straight (if you can) and packs a punch. Very hard wearing, reliable too. For £400 you could get one of these, sling, scope, lamp, bipod etc, etc, etc
     
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    load of cobblers about accuracy being affected using a carbine barrelled gun:rolleyes:
     
  11. steve410

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    Well said Rockabilly,I have had classic and carbines,no difference what so ever :(
     
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    i think when it comes to springers its best to have a rifle not a carbine as the longer barel will make the gun recoil less for some reason.

    anyway. any BSA HW or Air arms springer will work well.
    i would use a .22 for rabbits by the way, more energy and all that
     
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    I got my PCP VenomViper second hand. It was just under a year old and came with a Hawke, 5.5-16x44 scope on too; all in al a great set-up. All I've bought to add to it is a sling, dive bottle, lamp, and pellets
     
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    Maybe because they're heavier? :confused: I've never noticed a difference myself.
     
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    True, with my S410 carbine l have put a hole in the last pellet hole, out to 45 yds over and over again, the only time you will experience problems with a carbines, being a shorter barrel, is if you go over, the recommended, 18ftp on the FAC carbine....unless you use a heavy pellet...:up:
     
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    HW97K in .22
    Possibly the best spring rifle.
    Fixed barrel-better accuracy
    Built in silencer
    German quality
    These feel real good in the hand as well, but my wallet was screaming....NOOOOOOOO NOOOOOOOO!
    But if i had £400 to spend, then this is what i would get.
     
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    i dont think you can beat a airarms tx200 very accurate gun indeed, even better if you can drop on a sr version:)
     
  18. jhnbrty1978

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    Thanks for all the comments guys still no clearer in my mind unfortunatley and to make things worse a guy i work with could be selling a BSA Ultra .177 single shot:(.

    My only reservation about it is that it looks quite a small/compact rifle and i am 6'5 and 17st not sure if i will be to big. Will hopefully get a go at the weekend and find out.

    Any thoughts on the BSA Ultra???
     
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    good little tool but personaly i dont like the MMC system, im a bolt action kind of guy.

    for hide and shed work it is perfect but i prefer a longer rifle for field work as they are more stable in the kneeling position.
     
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    recoil?, unlikely!.
     

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