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Advice New Hw95k Over Limit

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by SiegeA, Jul 19, 2020.

  1. SiegeA

    SiegeA Active Member

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    Hi
    After picking up my new HW95K a few weeks back, I was able to shoot and chrono It today, using the Combro. Pellet weight was 8.4 grain, Air Arms Diablo Field. That was entered into the Combro, along with no correction for speed.

    This is my first gun. I found 50% of the time, it was shooting over 12lb/ft. Excuse the scribbled attachment as I am on the phone and haven’t tabled it yet.

    What should I do? Any input/advice is appreciated.
     

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  2. Sandy man 1963

    Sandy man 1963 Posting Addict

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    That’s not good take it back to your RFD and get him to check it.
     
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  3. Wild Bill

    Wild Bill co2 Enthusiast, HW97, K98 owner

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    Well it's still under guarantee/warranty. Get your RFD to swap it.
    Or use a lighter pellet until it beds in.
     
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    dessy b Engaging Member

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    put some more shots over it and see if it calms down..
     
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    It's "capable." It is FAC. once FAC always FAC. Swap it NOW, or go to jail !
     
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  6. BallisticBill

    BallisticBill Keyboard Hero

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    Check the weights of the AADF: they should be 8.44gr which makes it even worse. And lighter pellets are likely to be higher. I'd do a test with AA/JSB Express and/or JSB RS and check with another chrono to be sure - your RFDs if you don't have access to another.

    If it's still putting out any pellets above 12ft lb I'd take it back.

    If you were going to tune it yourself or pay someone to do it then you might as well go ahead, get it sorted now, and forego the warranty.
     
  7. BallisticBill

    BallisticBill Keyboard Hero

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    It's not FAC until it's been tested under forensic conditions. But it is suspected and needs immediate attention.
     
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  8. mikeyhall1

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    That’s not just over, you can add another half fpe if you shoot some RS or Express through it.

    It’s a simple fix if you’re handy, however it is a new gun and under warranty - so take it back.
     
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    1260engineer Precision matters

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    Or he could just give it to me and go get another one :) :thumb: :D
     
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    mikeyhall1 Amazing Poster

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    Win win ;)
     
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    waisted skirt Donator

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    Bear in mind if you did anything yourself that's the warranty out of the window. Have heard of a couple of instances where Hull Cartridge have been only to keen to pounce on this reason with expensive consequences for the purchaser.
     
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  12. john79

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    could be dieseling , id shoot a tin through it first to see if it calms down
     
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    Replacement under warranty is a correct and prudent option. There are others. Many of us would strip, clean and relube a new gun to ensure removal of manufacturing swarf, sharp burrs etc. This would also eliminate the possibility of dieseling. Most new springs can be expected to shorten 3 - 5 mm after initial use. Leaving gun cocked over night will hasten this process. More advanced, but not difficult, better fitting guides, top hat, will smooth performance and cutting spring to shoot 10.9 - 11.3 will benefit accuracy.
    Welcome to the world of springers and all joys therein.
     
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    I would get it tested on another chrony like a Skan after checking pellet weights,then if still a little over,leave it cocked without a pellet in for a few days and try again,that may take the edge off it.Ideally all shots should be under 11.5 in my opinion with any pellet.
     
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  15. Wild Bill

    Wild Bill co2 Enthusiast, HW97, K98 owner

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    I thought the heavier the pellet the more ftlb? :shrug::coffee:
     
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    mikeyhall1 Amazing Poster

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    Typically mate-

    Heavier in a pcp will raise power
    Lighter in a springer will raise power
     
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    heavier pellets in a pcp generally make more power and lighter pellets in a springer also generally make more power BUT that depends how the rifle has been set up or tuned, ive had pcps that make more power with lighter pellets .
     
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    PCPs tend to shoot more efficiently with heavier pellets, springers tend to with lighter ‘in general’
     
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  19. rich79

    rich79 Lovin the smell of cordite in the morning

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    You've got three options.

    1) Take it back

    2) If you're going to fit a tuning kit then it's present energy is immaterial, sort the fpe after bedding in the new kit.

    3) If you're not going to fit a kit & leave it standard then cock it without a pellet in it & lock it in the cabinet or whatever for a day or two then test with a really light pellet like RWS Hobby.
     
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  20. Davey Sprocket

    Davey Sprocket “You've got red on you.”

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    Straight back to the RFD, ASAFP. They've sold you a potentially illegal firearm, they must sort it out pronto, no if's no but's.

    Sorry, but this really gets my goat. Guns like this pass through manufacturers QA, importers / distributors, through RFD's, and into the hands of punters for whom the legality of what they're buying shouldn't be in question. Yet if the law comes knocking it's the punter in the dock.

    It's one thing for those of us with the knowledge and wherewithal to deal with this ourselves, and all credit to @SiegeA, new to the sport, for checking for himself, but how many such guns go to joe public who've just bought a fun gun to shoot pop cans?

    :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
     
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