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New gun: Hatsan AT44-10 - my thoughts...

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by ManxAirGunner, Jul 2, 2012.

  1. ManxAirGunner

    ManxAirGunner Busy Member

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    Hi all,

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    Picked up the new gun on Saturday, and boy was I excited - had to pop a sleeping pill the previous night (I know I know, big kid at Christmas comes to mind!!). So, what was included?

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    I immediately headed home to fill the rifles' air canister. This proved a little difficult as the seals had been obliterated on the adapter which fits into the canister. Not to worry though, I headed straight to town and bought 20 replacements for £2 :)
    After finally, and slowly filling the first canister, I tried to repeat on the second. No joy, the fitting is just too tight. Not to worry though as I got around 90 shots from 180 bar to 110 bar without loss of power. More than enough, and it's no real hassle to fill the canister back up.

    Lastly, I decided to do the 'magazine mod' which I found on youtube, which basically involves wet and dry on the magazine to smoothen off the finish resulting in better pellet release (I believe) and smoother cocking feel.

    So off to one of my permissions, a field which I often use for some target practice. For zeroing I chose 37 yards, why not 35? Well my first target was set at 25 yards, and from there the next available object to support the target was 12 yards further!).

    Now laying in the prone position, I loaded the magazine and took aim.... Pellet flies XXX far from the target. ****, scope was mounted wrong lol. With windage on the top and elevation on the left, you get the drift - I was so excited to get out, I mounted the scope wrong lol...

    Anyway, scope now correctly mounted - I took aim and fired. I was surprised at how quiet the gun was! After a few adjustments and leading the barrel, the below groupings were obtained. Note that the bottom left were superdomes (which the gun didn't like). Superfields however, proved to be the better of the choice!

    5 pellets in top left, 5 in top right, several in bottom left and 10 in bottom right.

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    I did mention earlier that I found the gun was quite quiet, well, I decided to sit inside a barn for a while waiting for some crows to sit on a dung pile. After getting a little bored, I emptied a mag into it - blooooody hell..... the gun was loud, very very loud while in the barn..... I decided to head to another permission, this time with the silencer on - 3 clean rabbit kills to christen the rifle - happy days.

    All in all, I think I fired around 400 pellets yesterday :-D had great fun.

    People have been saying that they think the gun is very heavy - well I found it pretty light, but then again I'm used to carrying an Airsporter-S around fields for hours - not they're heavy!!

    The difference between a springer and PCP was awesome - I loved not having to load a pellet each time, or even take my eye off the target.

    I'll be going back out tonight anyhow, wind rain or snow !!
     
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    secretagentmole Low down, dirty and quiet...

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    On the second air cylinder, wait until your seals flatten a bit, should work lovely then! Glad you are enjoying it, they are lovely rifles. Quiet too! Now join us on http://ukhatsanownersforum.myfineforum.org/index.php a website for all of us who own Turkish delights....
     
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    Thanks mate, I find that the seals get destroyed after filling a few times which is why I bought so many.

    Can I rub a little grease on them? Just enough to give them a slimy coat, so as to avoid getting grease in the cylinder?
     
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    secretagentmole Low down, dirty and quiet...

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    I never felt the need to do that, never had a problem with it, are you using the right sort of seals?
     
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    We don't have a gun supplier over here which would stock them, so I used normal O Rings from a garage - they're a very snug fit, bit are a bit bulkier so probably not the same as originals, but they do a great job sealing on one canister. I can honestly live with one as I'll never shoot 90+ rabbits in one night. Perhaps once I've used all these seals, i'll order some proper ones from online
     
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    secretagentmole Low down, dirty and quiet...

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    Ah ha, that is the problem pm inbound!
     
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    Thanks mate - in the post.

    Just been to get the bottle filled - £2 bargain!!

    Booked tomorrow off work n all for a shooting session!
     
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    hello will you think of tuning your hatsan and getting a silencer?
     
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    Hi mate, it's probably closer to 12 ft/lb anyway mate. already have a silencer, makes a huge difference.

    The gun sounded quite quiet in the open, but when in a barn it omits an almighty thunder. Silencer does a great job

    also forgot to say, it was very windy yesterday
     
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    ok but was just looking on a u tube video seems you can tune without going over limit? making a smoother gun? windy!!!!!!!!!!!! blowing a hooly here:mad: was trying a fishy day:down:
     
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    hatsans are tools, well built, ugly looking tools, fantastic at their job, I own one of their shotguns and I cannot fault it for quality or price, I also have a mod60 which is a great little springer, well done on your choice and I hope it brings you lots of good times
     
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    ah I see, I'll take another look later. I did do the magazine mod which made it smoother to cock and would have undoubtedly improved groupings.

    One thing I haven't changed yet is the trigger - there's no resistance up until it fires, but, i don't particularly mind it like that. Just so I know, how should it feel? Should there be relative resistance/tension when taking up the slack>?
     
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    the trigger depends on how you like it, does it take a very light touch for it to let off? if so add some travel resistance to the first stage or you may just end up snatching at the trigger, and losing accuracy
     
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    Ahhh thanks, the travel is very light and but actually fire it, there's a comfortable amount of resistance. Perhaps some added travel resistance would be good.. food for thought :)
     
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    Hi,
    I've one of these rifles too, but i have yet to do anything to it.
     
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    Have you fired it yet? If so, hows the groupings etc, what pellets?
     
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    i love mine, with the black synthetic thumb hole . find it to be very pellet fussy though, using crossman domed or bisley magnums for extra stopping power at shorter ranges.
    i know a lot of people slate them , but as a tool to do a job there spot on.
     
  18. ManxAirGunner

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    Good stuff.

    In terms of pellets, now that I'm more comfortable with the rifle I'm starting to group consistently withing a 10 pence piece at 35 yards - that was with a cross wind yesterday. Theres only the off flyer which I put down to the pellet itself.

    RWS SuperFields btw
     
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    Just looking back on this post now - I headbang the ground if my groupings aren't on top of eachother now - shows what a bit of practice can bring!
     
  20. secretagentmole

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    What you mean a 10 shot group like this, .177 at 35 metres....

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