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New .15 calibre - really?

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by simdeal, Mar 16, 2008.

  1. simdeal

    simdeal Newbie

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    There seems to be a rumour circulating that Daystate have developed and are testing a .15 calibre rifle based on the MK3 FT-R along with their own ammo to match. It said to fire just slightly under the sound barrier / subsonic (Apparently to prevent instability) in 12FTLB and aimed at the HFT/ FT market with a super-flat trajectory.
    If it’s true it certainly puts a very new dimension on the old .22 / .177 debate!!
    Anyone hear anything or is it likely to be hype?
     
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    that would be very interesting.
     
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    Sounds interesting ... why has nobody else done that before?
     
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    is it bigger or smaller then .177?

    if its smaller burn the idea id not give it a go:p
     
  5. simdeal

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    I thought 4.5 milimeters (.177) was small.
    The .15 is a tiny calibre of only 3.81 milimeters!
    Sausage fingers need not apply!!
     
  6. simply james

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    interesting to have a look at the ammo they bring out for the gun.
     
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    You should get even less shots per charge with that size, i wonder if they will supply a free sack cart for humping the divers bottle around. :p
     
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    Yes, interesting number of shots likely (but the FT-R always was air efficient – but none the less)
    And, its interesting ammo as it must be < 5gr weight to be anywhere near 1130 ft/s velocity of sound.
    WOW 1130 ft/s….. The bunnies won’t even hear it coming and no doubt it will pass straight through.
    Line then up one behind the next and you could get 2 for the price of 1
     
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    :Dyep you would have to because you would probably only get one shot per fill
     
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    I don't know much about hunting but thinking about it, would you really want the pellet to pass through and out the other side? Does this still cause fatal damage?
     
  11. Rockabilly

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    cant see that calibre coming into production.
     
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    Seems like a good idea but it seems too small, to me :confused: good for target but nothing else.
     
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    the least used calibre is .20, not many people realize that its the best of both worlds, it has a flat trajectory not disimalar to a .177, and the impact power of a .22, but not many airgunners like to try something their not sure about thats why .20 is not as popular as the other two calibres,

    so in my opinion .15 will not take off, to be truthfull i will be amazed if its even produced.
     
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    Where have l herd that before, best of both worlds:D
     
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    I'd like to test a .15 gun, then make my mind up :confused: but that seems unlikely.
     
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    there just would be no punch behind it. .177 is only just enough to hunt but thats where the line should be drawn.

    fou hunting you cant go smallet than .177 surley
     
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    Heard a whisper it's supposed to be for HFT/FT not for general shooting.


    Ora
     
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    I think that was mentioned at the start of the thread, you might be right.
     
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    I reckon it'll be great for HFT/FT, but no good for hunting.

    It'll take an innovative company such as Daystate to get this off the ground.
     
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    Daystate – are defiantly innovative but are going to face some real challenges to make .15 work and accepted.
    Their CDT system with its new "Lean Charge" electronics may get 50 shots (just a “guestimate based on .22 / .177 shot per charge ratios) in .15 Cal @ 12 ft/lbs from a rifle like the MK3 FT-R

    The Air Wolf may get 150 (Its 320 in .177 / 460 in .22) with the 500cc bottle?
    That’s a really big sacrifice in efficiency! Unless they have some new tech up their sleeve !!
    Most other manufacturers don’t even come anywhere near Daystate’s CDT technology now, for shots per cylinder volume (for a given pressure) and “probably only get one shot per fill” as a1gunner quotes may not be that far from the truth.

    But its acceptance of .15 cal from the shooting community that may be the biggest challenge.
    A quick poll - If .15 were available today would you buy one?
     

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