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My trigger release technique is crap!

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by Cam., May 24, 2015.

  1. Cam.

    Cam. Registered

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    Please, will any of you give me your preferred methods for trigger release!

    I went out into the garden yesterday to practice with my TX200HC! Sat and rested I could and could get 1/4" ish groups at 22 yards. But then I would get flyers that opened the group to just under 3/4"

    I am using Defiant pellets and there was no discernible wind, so I am putting the inconsistent performance down to me!

    Many thanks

    Cam
     
  2. trumpetier

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    Practice;) having said that, ive been shooting springers 25 years and still get fliers:eek: its part of the appeal :rolleyes::D
     
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    OK Mukka I'm new to air rifles but not to shooting and this is a bit hard to explain in words
    1. DON'T snap the trigger
    2. before you take the shot and your breathing when you breath out take a bit of slack of the trigger Im taking it you got a two stage trigger
    3. Breath in and out a bit more once you breath out hold your breath and squeeze the trigger don't pull squeeze it
    4. Hold breath until your target is hit
    5. DO NOT just let the trigger go gently relase it under control
    6. Repeat over again
    Sorry is this is a bit hard to under stand it's hard for me to explain this in words try looking at the army markman ship principles on you tube it may help
     
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    have you pellet tested? maybe its the pelets giving you fliers, try something like aa fields/jsb they tend to work well in most guns,
     
  5. Stevie Darling

    Stevie Darling Sexual tyrannosaurus

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    Mind you 3/4" is a only a tad bigger than a 5p bit.

    with a springer, I would be chuffed with that:)
     
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    Don't curl your thumb around the grip, keep it upright & in the middle, then each shot you squeeze the trigger between your thumb & forefinger, like you were pinching something to see how soft it was.

    Maybe you do it like this anyway, but at least it takes one variable factor out of the equation.
     
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    don,t know if this is relevent or not,but here goes only had my tx200hc for a few weeks been down the range half a dozen times and thinking lots of first stage quite heavy second stage on the trigger but carried on blaming the wind for my mediocre groupings,then thinking it seemed a bit twangy. so i pulled it apart cleaned and greased and wotnot. was real surprised too find i now had shortish first stage and a really light secound stage,proper grease i expect but a much nicer gun to shoot and easier too
     
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    Shooting thumb up as above helped me, as it is a direct squeeze on the trigger.
     
  9. darklord

    darklord Can’t beat a tx200 at 30m

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    Get the trigger set properly they can be Censored out the box and spongy which don't help. Once set they can be v good but not quite a rekord unit. Get that sorted then practice
     
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    ive had to lighten the trigger on every gun ive owned, i have them light with no 1st stage
     
  11. HEY HEY ITS HENDO

    HEY HEY ITS HENDO Active Member

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    ......... :/
     
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    Imagine you are squeezing yor fore finger and thumb together rather than "pulling" the trigger, and keep it held back until you see the target go down,( follow through) you can influence the gun while the pellet is still in the barrel, its harder to do than it sounds, but if you are getting flyers its probably pellets.
     
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    What are you consciously doing to put the problem down to trigger technique?
     
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    How are you holding the gun?

    The only reason I ask is because I thought a lot of my issues came from the way I was using the trigger. Until someone pointed out I was holding the gun too tightly. And suggested I lookup the artillery hold for springers. Now I am a lot better. Not great, because I am still new to it all, but I found my accuracy increased because I started not holding it so damned tight. In fact I have stopped using rests and such because I find it more comfortable now to simply use myself as the rest for the gun. Even sat down at a bench I get myself into a comfortable position and shoot.
     
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    Many thanks to you all.

    I use the "artillery hold" but it's my grip on the pistol grip (trigger) seems to be the problem. (I think)

    Also, I am resting the fore end on some plastic foam that I have taped together, I wonder if this could accentuate any inconsistency?

    I don't think that it's the pellets. Defiants are IMO, the most consistently pellet I have seen. I also use AA 8.4's with similar results.

    I am going to try the thumb up technique.

    Many thanks again.

    Cam
     
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    I have to agree with Critanime... is it just the trigger that the problem. Is your hold good enough? How are you interpreting artillery hold? Shooting my SYNSG-clone (or Hatsan 55s), I find that I still need to hold the front-end of the rifle for any kind of accuracy. I shoot benchrested, and wears a target shooting glove. Tried rifle resting on my "open palm" or "cupped hand", which didn't work as I was getting inaccuracy at windage level. Holding the rifle firm (but not death grip) tightens the group a lot. If I get everything right I can do sub-1/2 group ctc at 25 yrds. As you shoot a decent rifle, unless you are obviously snatching the trigger, the trigger pull is unlikely to be the problem.

    It might be worth looking up "natural point of aim" on google and try to practice it. Shooting is easy to learn but difficult to master.

    Good luck!

    Adrian
     
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    Hi Adrian

    Many thanks for your post!

    I THINK it is my trigger release. My son has just bought a 6004 FAS pistol. I used to be good at c/f pistol target shooting, now I keep flinching the shots on the FAS. I wonder if subconsciously I am doing the same with the TX?


    I am going to follow your suggestion and rest the TX on my hand rather than on the plastic foam thingy.

    Many thanks Adrian (and others)
     
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    With the rifle unloaded, hold the crosshair on a spot at 25 yards and practice pulling the trigger over and over. If the crosshairs move off target at all then it's your trigger control, if you can consistently pull the trigger and keep the crosshairs smack on target then I'd try a pellet selection pack.. As you improve, I'm sure you'll achieve that group out to 35 yards though with a TX200. You'll get a different zero using a springer off hand to it being rested on something. I always zero my springers with them gripped lightly in a cupped hand, then if I use sticks as a rest I have the gun laying between thumb and forefinger and grip the sticks with my little and ring fingers.....:up:
     
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    I've received three bits of advice from different forum members over the last few months which have greatly improved my accuracy when using both PCP and springers:
    1. To use the suggested finger and thumb squeeze method rather than gripping the stock too tightly.
    2. To just push the butt gently with my shoulder rather than pull the rifle into it.
    3. Not to press my cheek too hard onto the butt but use the lightest of contacts. ( I am of course referring to my face not my a***e! ;) )
    hth
    Dag
     
  20. twodoctors

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    Great advice. The key would be to do 2 and 3 with the same force, and consistently... which is the difficult part!



    Adrian
     

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