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My New Purchase....Quirky Brake Barrel PCP

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by Elk hunter, Feb 18, 2014.

  1. Elk hunter

    Elk hunter Keyboard Hero

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    I can across this rifle last week on another forum and although new nothing about the gun I bought it on a wim because of its quirkiness.
    What is it you ask... BSA Spitfire High Fill in .22 cal. Brake barrel PCP.

    Ive trawled the net but information is very thin although i found a forum member GIRLYPANTS who had owned one. There seem to be some issues with the filling valve and that a self service is quite difficult. But I so far seem to have a good one, no leeks and in extremely good condition.
    All that I've found out is there was a buddy bottle filled rifle or a diving bottle fill and braking the barrel is to load and cock the trigger nothing else.
    Not shot it as yet but it's been over the crono with a healthy 11.6 fps with accupell.

    Very happy just for the fact I've never seen one before and it's a little different. So any info would be appreciated.

    Andrew

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  2. Macdoog

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    What a lovely looking rifle and such a great idea!!
     
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    Had the sf model with buddy bottle only got 25 shots to a fill had the 16 ins barrel.Don't cock it to hard that's where the damage is caused mine leaked after a while need a jig to take apart so i been told sold as spares .
     
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    Thats the first time i have ever seen that type of rifle....you would sware it was a springer:eek:
     
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    Couldn't have been that good an idea as it was discontinued..:)
     
  6. Macdoog

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    A good idea in hiding the bottle /air reservoir tho
     
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    I considered one of these back in about 2002/2003 when I first got back into air rifles. I was put off by the horror stories about servicing - as Tommy Gun said above you needed a special jig to set them up properly.

    If I remember correctly they had a sort of pressure gauge using a rod with a scale - although if the 25 shot per fill bit is right it was hardly necessary :D

    A bit of a marmite gun - but I can remember quite a few people loved them.
     
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    I bought a new high fill model and realy liked it, but it leaked air from day one , returned for a refund ,
     
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    You're getting old and forgetful Andrew, I took mine to your shoot last year (you thought it was a supersport). It's the same as yours but is in .177 . I've had mine in from new since 2003 and have not had a problem with leaks. I needs a service though as one of the orings has started to crack so I'll probably have to send it to Bowkett for tootling.
     
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    Only the SF model had the pressure gauge in the scope rail. The HF model did without. The HF allegedly fills to 232 bar and should give 50 shots or so in .22. They are renowned for leaking. If yours isn't don't fiddle with it. I had the Bowkett special version with a monster Bowkett bull barrel silencer. Cracking gun.
     
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    lovely looking rifles them, always wondered what they are like to shoot?

    when i read up on it, one of the common reasons for damage was over strenuous cocking, as from what i read it only actually needs a little bend of the barrel to cock it (not a full break barrel type stroke).
    so this may be something to bare in mind...

    There is one in market harborough gunshop aswell not too far from you..... and me :rolleyes: (must resist)

    you can get these with really really really :matt::rocka::laser::violent3:really long barrels too. :D
     
  12. cloverleaf

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    Looks like a nice example :)

    These are certainly quirky and interesting.. they have a linear valve setup which makes them very efficient, but they're hampered somewhat by the restricted barrel length since the breech is so much further forward.

    I'd endorse the horror stories about leaks and fixing - I had a go at one a while ago before conceding defeat and sending it off to Mr. Bowkett. I'd agree in that I think you need some sort of jig to strip it once you get to a certain point.

    Intriguing from an engineering perspective, but you can see how traditional barrel over cylinder pcps have a lot of advantages in comparison; despite the few standout features of the Spitfire.
     
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  13. SteveO

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    John Bowkett has some of these that he acquired from BSA some years ago, they have been fully blueprinted and he's knocking them out for £200 a pop.

    They are quite innovative in that you only have to break the barrel about an inch to cock them! I quite like them despite the low shot count!

    Did it come with the filling bottle Andrew?
     
  14. Elk hunter

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    No Steve this one does not have a bottle. It is the high fill and from what I have found out is this type has a better shot count of around 50 in .22 but plugs into a dive bottle or stirup pump like normal PCP.

    Andrew
     
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    I also have one of these had it from new, recently had a leak took it to my gunsmith in bolton , he managed to service it fine some spares no longer available and need to be made. I love mine shoots a dream as accurate as any other pcp, I get about 30 shots from mine as its the sf model, with the gauge.
     
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    Hi quick question does anyone know weather I could get a silencer for my hammerli black force 800 .22 air rifle? Thanks
     
  17. darklord

    darklord Can’t beat a tx200 at 30m

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    I bought the first one sold to the public when it was released. great rifle but v heavy for field work. about 15-20 shots per fill. dunno what happened to it.
     
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    Another leaker. Not a fast enough leak to worry about (days, rather than hours), so I live with it. Mine shoots very low, have the scope massivley shimmed.

    Dave
     

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