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My Colt Saa Arrived, But Oh...

Discussion in 'Replica Airguns' started by Reevo17, Nov 23, 2020.

  1. Headhunter

    Headhunter Never enough shell loading Revolvers

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    I think that you've misunderstood, it's the barrel shroud that's loose, the inner barrel is still fitting correctly and connects to the frame just as it should. Shimming the barrel shroud can and will alter the point of impact, so aligning it correctly is paramount to accuracy especially if you want the POI to be anywhere near the POA.
    I've seen good barrel shimming correct a 3 o'clock hold as well as tightening the barrel shroud, with no adverse effects on pellet feeding (eg. pellets clipping the forcing cone).
     
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    Is the inner barrel floating within the shroud at the cylinder end and located in a hole in the frame then?
     
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    Hmmmm...interesting. It's now making me think (based on HH's answer) that perhaps securing the outer barrel with something like Loctite might not be so bad after all. I think what put's me off is the thought that if Umarex don't do it I shouldn't but some people have told me they do. Confusing but interesting at the same time. :)
     
  4. Headhunter

    Headhunter Never enough shell loading Revolvers

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    Yes, that's the best way to describe it. The forcing cone end sits in a well in the frame, the inner barrel is spring loaded to move forwards and backwards as the cylinder goes through it's rotation, obviously a loose barrel shroud can create a degree of angle change at the muzzle because the floating inner barrel uses the barrel shroud as a guided support.
     
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  5. Headhunter

    Headhunter Never enough shell loading Revolvers

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    I wouldn't 'loctite' the barrel shroud, as unless you use a reversible glue it will be permanent and you won't ever be able to strip the gun down fully again (for whatever reason). At least if you use shims they can be changed, adjusted or even removed at a latter date, if need be.
     
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    Ah, now I see thanks:thumb:
     
  7. RockabillyBilly

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    Thanks HH. When I used the word Loctite I was really meaning the stuff that's put on the threads of bolts to stop the nut working loose but when the nut needs to come off for what ever reason it can be removed. I agree; if something like Epoxy resin like Araldite or JB Weld was used that would take some shifting if needs be. Personally, I'm not sure if Umarex actually do use some sort of 'bonding agent' for the barrels but what I do know is, I'm shocked the wobbly barreled pistols leave their factory in that condition. :eek:
     
  8. Headhunter

    Headhunter Never enough shell loading Revolvers

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    Oh a thread locker, something like Loctite 541 etc, I see what you mean now.

    You're right about the manufacturer's QC being substandard though as they shouldn't really leave the factory in that condition.
     
  9. RockabillyBilly

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    Yep, that's the stuff. I didn't make that clear in my post but that's the stuff. I have spoken via email with 2 people from Umarex about the poor quality of the pistols and a rifle I also bought. I have recieved replies but no Colt SAA as way of compensation. :D I won't hold my breath; I did that when I was 7 and went all blue and fell over.
     
  10. Jasongtr

    Jasongtr Jasongtr___________Jasongtr___________Jasongtr

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    Wobbly outer barrel sorted on mine, small piece of coke can (Coke Zero as I didn’t want getting fat) inserted - now rock solid
     
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    This does seem to be a common prob on the Colt saa, mine was a week old and started to move around, as already stated it was an easy fix with a coke can shim..
     

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