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My 1993 Weihrauch Hw35k Project Gun For 2018

Discussion in 'Vintage collectable airguns' started by GMballistic, Feb 28, 2018.

  1. GMballistic

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    Late last year I decided I wanted to fulfill one of my airgun childhood "wants" so started looking for a Weihrauch HW35. Specifically one of the older ones with a rounded bottom pistol grip style stock.

    I didn't want a brand new one and instead was after one that I could buy as cheap as possible making it a project gun for the following year (2018).

    After searching for a while I found a reasonable .22cal "HW35K" variant for sale on FreeAds but it was too much money imho. To cut a long story short we haggled on price and I told the seller to keep the scope that was on it as I didn't want that so I ended up getting it at a price I felt more comfortable paying. Unfortunately when the rifle arrived it was in even worse shape then I had expected especially as it was described as beautiful condition. :(

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    As you can see some things were minor problems like the stock being marked and in need of refinishing but I was expecting that. What I wasn't expecting was a slightly rusty barrel, non-functioning safety, faulty Rekord trigger and 2 holes randomly drilled in the stock (one possibly for a bipod attachment but the other I have no idea why).
    There were some positives for me though as it was stamped "Made in W.Germany" which I liked, it felt smooth to cock and the serial number dated it to 1993 so around the exact era I was hankering for one of these rifles (I was 13 then).

    Later in the year I plan to refinish the stock and sort the holes out but for now I just wanted to fix a few things and get the rifle shooting nicely.

    I firstly used WD40 on the safety catch to see if it was just a gummed up spring or something and worked it continually until it was working freely. It works better now although if I haven't fired the rifle for a week or so it has failed to operate on the first shot once or twice so I may need to replace the safety spring eventually to remedy this.

    Next up I tackled the rusty barrel and thankfully it was only light surface rust so came off with some fine wire wool, elbow grease and some silicone oil. You can see the difference between the picture above and the one below after I had tackled the rust. Also note I've put the front sight on correctly as it was on back to front.

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    I also went about fixing the Rekord trigger as it was pretty dangerous due to it not working correctly seeming to be only working on a single stage.
    I used this guide here to adjust the first/second stage creep: http://www.airguns.net/general_rekord_trigger.php
    ...and it's now working great. Infact it's the best Rekord trigger unit I've ever had on any of my old Weihrauchs.

    I then cleaned the barrel so I knew it was clean before starting to trial various pellets for accuracy and power. Tbh it wasn't that dirty though as you can see...
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    Now it was shooting safely I ran some pellets through it to "lead it in" a little before chronographing it at home using various pellets to make sure it was legal as I planned on taking it to my local club the following weekend. I was surprised after testing it though as I had heard stories of these older HW35's not giving great power but this one is.
    Peak power was 11.8ft.lbs using RWS Superdome pellets. I did try various other pellets including lighter and heavier ones but nothing beat the RWS Superdome so that's what I decided to zero it with as after some grouping tests at 15 yards in my garden as it was also seemingly the most accurate pellet to use.

    Tbh I'm not surprised by that as all I ever used in my Weihrauchs back in the day was RWS Superdome pellets.

    For a short while I used the open sights and even considered getting a peep sight for it but tbh I've enjoyed shooting this so much that I thought it deserved a decent "period correct" scope to enhance it's shooting abilities/distance.

    I started looking at scopes which were available in the 90's and then it hit me, ...I used to have a Simmons White Tail Classic (WTC) scope which I absolutely loved so I started hunting for one of them. After a brief search predominantly on eBay and FreeAds I managed to nab a WTC 3.5-10x40WA scope with some Sports Match mounts thrown in for a great price. Suits the rifle down to the ground I hope you'll agree... :cool:
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    Spent some time dialing it in nicely and it gave a pellet on pellet performance at 15 yards which I'm very happy with.
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    Hopefully if all goes to plan I'll update this thread later in the year once the weathers warmer and I've refinished the stock. Still considering wood stain colours as well as what finish I'd like to go for. Suggestions welcomed as well as comments. ;)
     
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  2. Scott

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    Thats a lovely old thing Gareth it has lots of character and wears the age well enough
    are you planning to strip, clean and rebuild the internals?
    (maybe get a better look at that safety spring too)
     
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    I like that gun & the choice of scope. It's exactly the sort of thing me & my mates hankered after back in the day but none of us could afford. :( One thing I find a bit odd is it being stamped W. Germany & you dating it to '93 as West Germany was dissolved in 1990 ???

    Like Scott said, it's got character & I almost think it's a shame to strip it in a way but can understand why you'd want the stock to look a bit tidier. If it was mine, I'd make up a cleaner/restorer using 1 part meths, 1 part linseed oil & 1 part vinegar (mixed in a jam-jar & shaken well) & I'd get that on the stock with some superfine steel wool, leave it on for about 5 minutes & buff off with a rag. It's surprising how much better a piece of timber can look after being given this treatment & you won't lose the patina & character that the gun has got at the moment.
     
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    Lovely guns the 35’s. Good luck with it Gareth and I’m sure many hours of fun are ahead
     
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    It definitely has character and if it was an 80's or 70's era gun then I'd probably leave it as is but I'd like to make it more my own so will definitely be looking at doing something with the stock.

    I won't be stripping it internally though as honestly Scott it's one of the sweetest shooting spring guns I've ever used. Trigger is light and crisp, recoil is minimal & as I mentioned the power is right up there so no need to fix what isn't broken. :D
    Might take a peak inside though just because I think somethings been done to it internally so would be good to know.

    I thought that the date/stamping was strange too but I've checked it on WOC (Weihrauch Owners Club) and WDB (Weihrauch Data Base) both confirm it as a 1993 production gun. I spoke to rabbitwrecker and Johnbaz on here about it who both believe it is a bit of a red herring.
    The consensus is that the "Made in W. Germany" stamping was either used after the wall fell to help imply better quality (than the East) or the barrels etc were old stock already stamped up before the wall fell and Weihrauch just continued to use up all their old stock. Either way I like it being on the gun.

    Re: the stock. As I mentioned above with Scott. Still not sure entirely yet which way I'm going to go with it.
    Maybe a light "tobacco" colour stain with "True Oil" over the top, ...satin type finish rather than gloss. :up:


    Already had some hours of fun with it thanks Mikey but yes hopefully many more. ;)
     
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    That's looking pretty good Gareth, your right about the Scope it suits it, I would go Satin as well, there's something about older Weihrauch's :cool:
    Enjoy it ;)
    Ray
     
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    Great write up, and refurb GM:up:
     
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    Thanks Ray.
    I wanted to get a scope that was available around the same sort of time period and I used to have the exact same WTC scope on an old Webley Tracker so I knew they were good. Just lucky I found one in decent enough shape and for not too much money (Think it was £70-£75 including mounts/delivery).

    I'm going to start working on the stock once the weather warms up some. Basically the same as I did here; http://www.airgunforum.co.uk/community/index.php?threads/how-to-refinish-a-wood-stock.230483/
    ...but probably a light wood stain (like a tobacco one) with a satin finish as I mentioned. Definitely something about old Weihrauchs, they're such great guns. :up:


    Cheers bud.
    Not finished yet but I am so pleased with it as it is. Definitely worth the 25 year wait. :D
     
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    t looks ten times better already Gareth, Well done :up::cool::cool:


    John :)
     
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    Thanks John and I appreciate that coming from you. ;)

    Hopefully I can make a good job of the stock at some point this year. Feel free to suggest any ideas for wood stain colours as I know you've seen/had/got a fair few of these rifles.
    Gareth :up:
     
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    love the 35, and that one looks good for the age. They are one of my all time faves, enjoy.
     
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    Thanks and it is a fantastic rifle to shoot with.

    It's not in bad condition for the age I guess and it's looking better now then when I first got it. Hopefully it will look even better later in the year providing I get the stock done. ;)
     
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    Very Nice mate;), and it seems the poor rifle has finally got to the right owner after all these years!

    Enjoy mate, and a old 35 is one Weilrauch I’ve always wanted but for some reason have never owned

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    Thank you Daniel. :)

    I'm really enjoying shooting this spring rifle although I've yet to get started on the stock so look out for some pictures of that later in the year.

    If you ever get the chance I'd definitely say at least try a 35, if not buy one as they're great guns. Worth keeping an eye on FreeAds etc if you're seriously interested as sometimes they come up extremely cheap for what they are. :cool: :thumb:
     
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    Yes I just missed the opertunity once for an old .177.

    May be my next purchase :)
     
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    Another vote for the HW35..i've had dozens of them..from the basic 35 to "tuned" version's & everything in between...my favourite...the Normay Vixen...leather piston washer...really sweet shooter..probably around 10ft.lbs but accounted for more vermin counts (in the 90's) than any airgun I have owned.:thumb:
     
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    Get the "Export" model if you can as I've heard they're very good (longer barrel, decent power & AFAIK some with walnut stocks).
    Keep looking and good luck. :thumb:

    Hi Chris, add some pictures if you like/can. Always interesting to see pictures of different variants. :cool: ;)
     
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    Hi Gareth...can't do pic's & the like...took me all this time to change me Avatar..:rolleyes:

    Guess what this is..:)
     
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    That's fair enough and if you mean "guess what your avatar is" then I actually know!! :eek::D

    Crosman 451 "Military" Co2 pistol. :cool: How does it shoot?
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    IMG_1327.JPG IMG_1328.JPG Great post. It's prompted me to post some pictures of an old HW35 I was given the other day in exchange for some work in a gun.

    A bit messy but a lot of potential, especially as it's a rarer 'Luxus'.

    I'm not sure whether to send the metalwork to Colin Malloy or keep it with a patina appropriate to its age.

    One sided safety so likely to be mid 70's with a 65**** serial number.
     
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