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Mounting a screen at the side

Discussion in 'Night Vision Optics and Illumination' started by LuckySniper, Mar 19, 2014.

  1. LuckySniper

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    Anyone can point me in the right direction or give me ideas please. I want to mount my screen to the side so giving me a more natural feel when the rifle is shouldered. The screen still wants to be the right way as I will be using a 16mm lens so some sort of bracket that has a ball joint or something. Hope I have explained that so you understand it ? :confused:
     
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    Take a look at Ram Mounts, we use them for sat nav/phones etc on motorbikes. Loads of different fixings.
    http://www.ram-mount.co.uk/
     
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    Have a look at the bracket I made for my screen, You could mount this sideways (90 degrees to the scope) using exactly the same bracket but with a slightly longer threaded rod.

    If you think this is a solution for you and need help sourcing the bits give me a shout.
     
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    My preferred method is to cut off the suction base that most come with and fix that to the lower part of a weavwer scope mount - this has the ring part cut off to leave a flat top. Use a screw and some epoxy to get a solid fix. I have various fitting to add weaver bases to the scope and it means the monitor can be fitted in any orientation - as long as you have one with the ball and socket fitting on the back. If you have a mount which only has tilt adjustment it's going to be more difficult but not impossible. Ebay has loads of weaver fixings which can be used, once you find a suitable one to fit onto your scope you're sorted.
    This is one option http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/25-4mm-30...Hunting_ShootingSports_ET&hash=item43bdf99f24 or I have used this http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Figure-8-...Hunting_ShootingSports_ET&hash=item1e8535dc7c with the part with the rails on cut off leaving fixing screws both sides of the scope which gives you 2 bases to use.
     
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    Cant think what you mean Terry sorry. Do you have pics? Also a screen recommendation. Not a huge one
     
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    Difficult to explain in words, this is one I did earlier http://www.flickr.com/photos/96928706@N04/8939084693/. The screen is side mounted onto a figure 8 mount. This is the screen fitted to a weaver scope mount cut down as I explained.
    At the moment I am using these screens in builds http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/290804759940?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649 so I can't suggest a smaller one, in fact there's not much difference in the overall size. The last ones I bought came with 2 alternative mounts and arrived in about 2 weeks. If you find the cheap 3 1/2" ones they will all be much the same, the resolution isn't that good but still perfectly usable.
     
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    Thanks everyone, food for thought indeed. I get the camera through the scope and the image is then relayed on to the screen but something else I was thinking about is a hand held spotter. So my question is what should I used as a scope on a hand held device Should be a fix mag and small or is there something else I can use to fit over the camera lense. Also do I use the same camera lens
     
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    No, you use a similar camera but you get a different lens. Probably best to get a decent zoom lens in a c mount fitting and modify the camera to take c mount lenses, if you can find something that zooms up to about 100mm you will get decent magnification and range.
    Most board cameras can have the lens housing removed and a c mount one fitted to replace it, just 2 little screws to undo. A bullet camera can be used with an adapter which screws in to the front but will need the front glass removing and may need 5mm trimmed from the front of the camera body to get it to focus.
    A cordless drill body can be a good housing for a hand held spotter, you just need to fix on a piece of weaver rail to fit the torch on. If you get a 12volt one with a decent battery then you're already half way there.
     
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    Bear in mind with a spotter unless you have a lot of the parts already you can probably buy a commercial digital spotter for less than the cost of your parts to build one.

    The commercial one will be a lot more comfortable to leave hung around you neck while you shoot.
    Cheers Andy
     
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    The nitesite ones looks great but not paying all that!!
     
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    Yes crazy money.
    There are lots of good spotters around for less than £200 and lots of amazing ones for less than £600.
    £ 800 for a nitesite spotter and not even covert I don't think so.
    Cheers Andy
     
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    Yes your right. I have a Yukon NVMT 3x40 but cant find an IR torch that works with it. Its Gen 1. Tried 2 different torches now but keep drawing a blank
     
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    You're probably better off with a laser for a gen1 device, they need quite a lot of light and 800nm wavelength will be better (although slightly more visible) than the 850nm of a led.
    A half decent digital spotter will be much better and need not cost a great deal, this is what I would be looking at if I were needing one:
    700 tvl board camera about £30
    M42 slr camera 135mm f2.8 lens about £15
    adapter M42 to c mount about £15
    adapter c mount to board camera about £10
    5" monitor about £22
    cables etc about £3
    12 volt cordless drill about £25 (get one with a decent battery and a charger, might even find a new 'own brand' one for similar money)
    Weaver rail for torch mounting about £10
    adjustable mount for torch about £20
    IR torch and weaver mount about £40.
    All in a touch under £200 and should give good results out to 200 yards, maybe more.
    You will be amazed at just how well these can see, they make the Gen1 monoculars look like toys.
    If you want to spot for rats etc at close range just add a 50mm f1.8 M42 lens for £10.
     
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    Yes true but you can now get a new commercial ready built digital NV spotter for £200ish or second hand for less than £150.

    Totally covert no light spill from a screen on your face, and an invisible 940 pulsed illuminator built in. Add a low power 850nm led torch and they will see a very long way.

    Light weight and comfortable to have around your neck while shooting.
    Depends how much you enjoy the building I guess, and the use you will put it to.
    Walking around nature spotting I think the screen would be better.
    Shooting covert and low weight gets the vote from me.
    Cheers Andy
     
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