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Question Motogp - Should Rossi Retire?

Discussion in 'General chit chat' started by Crom, Jul 8, 2019.

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  1. Crom

    Crom Crom is your Göd

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    Once a great champion, however since Marquez started schooling him, Rossi has slipped further and further back on the grid, to the point of being laughed at by the Yamaha Satellite team and his Factory stable mate. Also marred by his childish vilification of Marquez that for me has tarnished his career.

    Should he pack it in? I vote yes and the sooner the better.
     
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    I'm still a fan of Rossi, I think his frustration however is clear, he still has podium places in him and he still feels he may have another championship left in him.

    I certainly don't think he should retire, the moto GP stable would not be the same without him, a bit like Simoncelli, who was one of my favourite characters and racers.
     
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    I reckon he should stay as it gives me something to laugh at when he falls off!
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    Brilliant rider, but getting out shadowed by the younger crop of riders coming up through the ranks. Don't think he should retire just yet, but can't help feeling that he's not getting as much support from his team which might mean he'll move on and do some other motorsport like rallying ?
     
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    It’s time he moved to world superbikes still a great rider . The goat :thumb:
     
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    Great rider, absolute . in motorcycle racing terms .... he was always going to get beaten at some point however, if he is still fit enough and feels up to it then any team would relish the insight and feedback he could give compared to all others. At least he is still having a go, I recall Casey Stoner walking away long before his time was up which to me is worse than staying on too long.

    I Don't see the records Rossi has set being beaten for many years and when all said and done he is an unusually large figure in the pack compared to most other riders so again testament to his ability. The only blot on his books would be not getting the Ducati to be as competitive when he was riding but his was over shadowed by the ability he had in getting the Yamaha not only up the ranks when he first arrived there but actually winning the title in his first season with them. ....No one saw that coming.

    9 world titles in 4 classes.
     
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    Would be an interesting move, but again there's a big group on the up and not sure he'd get a huge amount of factory/team support after an initial season. IMO he'd be better off going to four wheels as he's already proved he could be quick enough ...

    https://www.autosport.com/other/news/140587/rossi-takes-victory-at-monza-rally-show

    Would hate to see him disappear into obscurity on the bikes, just schlepping round for the money and fans, becoming a bit of a joke like Leon Haslem who just can't make the grade.
     
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    Eh? Marquez has 7 championships under his belt already (8 if you count this season - as I don't think anyone will catch him). All at the age of 26. So he has 14 years to get one more championship to match Rossi.

    Soooooo "many years" could in reality equate to 18 months.

    Honestly I feel this is the only reason that Yamaha keep him on at present - shirt sales. I bet he funds 90% of Yamaha's MotoGP cost on merchandise sales alone.
     
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    Yeah I agree - I just don't think he can match the young guys on cutting edge MotoGP bikes any more.
     
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    I'm a massive Diego Maradonna fan - but I don't think he should be playing any more ;)

    I agree though he "was" one of my favourites, but his vilification of Marquez actually makes me feel sick when I think of it. The way he got his fans to hate Marquez and boo him at events is also sickening. Have you ever been to a MotoGP and heard Rossi fans when anything Marquez is mentioned? They are like moronic f######g animals, the latest I saw was at Phillip Island 2018 when Marquez got punted in the exhaust and came off... the Rossi fans near me were screaming like asylum lunatics that they hoped Marquez was dead!!! .... Many of them were from the UK.

    Sorry but I really do feel Rossi has tarnished his status - which is really quite sad.
     
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    I get that but at the same time there have been many rivalries in moto GP over the years, it's just the way it is, I think Marquez in this instance is mature enough to realise this, I'm not condoning the behaviour of the fans but it's the same in football with local derby's, only difference is that in football fans almost do lose their lives.

    Again it's horses for courses regarding whether Rossi should retire or not, I like him as previously mentioned and I hope he manages more race wins, if not I think he'll probably hang up his leathers if he feels the time is right?
     
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    Ahh yes, the Rossi fan club....:facepalm:
     
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    Didn't realise he had that many.

    Although I would like to see Marquez do it on another machine ... as said Rossi made the Yamaha what it is/was ... no one gave it a chance when it first appeared but won first time out.

    Would have loved to see Marquez on 500cc ... I bet he would be good to watch on one of those.

    Rossi so far has 115 wins to his name with only Agostini ahead of him. Marquez has plenty of time to reach this level but so far you have to conclude Rossi in the modern era is still head and shoulders above the rest. Marquez is sixth on the list with 65 wins but still behind Hailwood and Lorenzo.

    It only takes one or two knocks and he could be forgotten about. He could go to another manufacturer and it could all be over as Rossi nearly found out at Ducati. yes he could race for another 14 years but it could all be over next week!!
     
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    And why shouldn't he have a fan club...one of the the greatest of all time...its funny isn't it....as soon as agostini makes a statement about rossi....every idiot with half an inkling jumps on the bandwagon....Marquez is a fantastic talent without a doubt and I admire him...and once over rossi was the best....the fact he's still competing and he can at his age is admirable....it keeps it interesting ...should man u or Tottenham stop playing football cause they cant win **** all....:rolleyes::rolleyes:
     
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    I think he should do whatever he and the race team wants. It’s got nothing to do with anyone else. He will always have his fans, me included :thumb:
     
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    It's not a case of should Rossi retire, the decision is his, Yamaha will keep Rossi, that's if HE want's to continue, he is a massive draw in motorcycle racing and his name is hugely beneficial regards sales for Yamaha. Rossi, like many, can ride around many of the issues of handling etc, but at the end of the day, if the bike isn't working, he can't sort out the problem, the team have to do something to correct it. I wouldn't like to be in the position of knowing the bike I was risking my life by riding, was likely to kill me because it wasn't set up right or had a hidden fault. Remember with his 2 years at Ducati, it had problems, Ducati brought in Gigi Dall'inga, who took over and rebuilt the bike from the ground up, it was great from the off, but Rossi had left by then.
    He was and still is a massive character and knowing that he's racing, will have spectators flocking to the tracks, he enjoys riding, is still very competitive (if the machinery is working), so if he want's to keep riding, why not? Among the other riders is Karel Abraham, a satellite rider, is no doubt a decent rider by being in the class, but his father owns the Brno circuit, how often is it he gets close to Rossi?
    Marquez is a quality rider, like Rossi, has been 125 and 250cc champion, before moving into the big class, but not via the violent 500's. All riders crash, some more often than others, some more spectacularly and some with horrendous and life changing or ending results, it's the darker side of the sport. Marquez has been very lucky so far, he hasn't had a crash that's caused him any serious damage, but we know,that one small mistake, an equipment failure, something on the track or a completely outside factor, can change a life in a split second, it doesn't bear thinking about. Fingers crossed for all racers.
    Let those who want to race, do just that, it's their choice and we as spectators or armchair viewers, can continue to enjoy sport, where men are men and earn their every penny of their wages in a very dangerous word, (not like football playing cry babies).
    Mick Doohan almost lost a leg after his Assen crash in 92, he tried to come back at Laguna Seca, but crashed below the corkscrew, had he not crashed, he would have taken the championship that year, Rainey beat him to the title by 4 points. 93 was rebuild year and Kevin Schwantz took his only title, a great and tough rider who really should have won more. The next 5 years belonged to "Mighty Mick" and this was a guy with a fused ankle, many with this condition, are classed as disabled, a very hard man indeed. Last week Cal Crutchlow broke his leg last week, yet managed to get on the podium on Sunday, yes, bike racers are hard men. When I was a kid, I watched lots of Scrambling, later to become Motocross, yes, I'm that old, I can remember Smith, Bickers, Vic Eastwood and Brian Goss on Grandstand on Saturday afternoon, my dad used to joke, "a rider can lose a leg in the first race and grow another one for the second", me not realising at the time, he was telling me how tough racers are.

    Let them ride and hang on for all you're worth.
     
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    Nope, but they want to be competitive, once players get past it they retire them for younger talent... :facepalm:
     
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    absolutely crack on!! I hate football with a passion, overpaid primadonna's , get tackled and spend the next 5 minutes rolling up and down the length of the pitch, bike racers, break bones and are itching to get back on the very thing that had them off and get stuck back in - proper big b0ll0cks :thumb:
     
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    Crom Crom is your Göd

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    I've been all over the World watching motorsport and never heard or seen anything like Rossi fans in the last 5 - 6 years. It really puts me off, to the point where I see a bunch of Rossi fans at a venue and avoid them.... let me say it again, these people are shouting/screaming/hoping a rider with DIE just so their man will win. There is simply NO excuse for that and never will be. Then there's the booing when Marquez wins, it's just bringing the sport down to gutter level.

    The really sad thing I was an avid Rossi fan, but his (and his fans) treatment of Marquez and his childish antics actually pushed me away from Rossi and put me in Marquez's camp. I guess your true colours show when you face a bit of adversity :down:
     
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    Crom Crom is your Göd

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    You mean the same bike that Vinales and Quateraro have been riding all season? ;)
     

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