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More advice needed

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by thedogsbollox, Sep 24, 2014.

  1. thedogsbollox

    thedogsbollox Engaging Member

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    This is where I am at.
    I have had a £1000 donation into the "Buy Tony an airgun" fund. I am now looking at pcp.
    I like the Weihrauch HW100 with a thumb hole stock. It comes in different calibres and different barrel lengths.
    I want to be using it for HFT mainly and occasionally for hunting rabbits.
    ATM I have no permissions so until I do it's just HFT.
    Is the barrel length an issue or is it just down to personal taste?
    From what I have researched, on the internet, .177 is better for targets due to the flatter trajectory but .22 is better for hunting. Do people use .22 for targets and .177 for hunting?
    I am about to fork out a lot of foldy stuff and don't want to regret my decision. Another thought I had was surely wind would have less affect on a .22 pellet? If so that makes a .177 harder to compensate?
    I don't mind doing the maths where a .22 trajectory is concerned for target shooting.
    I understand the different calibres deliver the same impact on quarry but due to its size is the .22 more affective as it's bigger and does more damage? If so does it give you a bit more range for a humane kill?
    On top of the rifle I figure I need a scuba tank and a fitting and hose for that. Where do I get this from and at what cost? How much to refill a tank? Where can I get that done here in Watford( there is not much in the way if sea around me)


    Thanks in advance
    Tony
     
  2. Kenbarcon

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    Hope this helps.
     
  3. thedogsbollox

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    Yes it does. Will the attachment that comes with the gun fit straight into this kit?
     
  4. Kenbarcon

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    That all depends on which gun you buy.
     
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    Looks like it's going to be a Weihrauch hw100. Not much info on what is supplied with it.
     
  6. DR2501

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    The HW100 is a fantastic rifle with the best (IMO) loading system around. Barrel length is down to personal taste. You get more shots per charge with a full length, but it is heavier and I personally prefer carbines (but then I'm a short a55 lol). As above though shoulder as many rifles as possible and I would also try as many magazine/loading systems as you can because not all are as good as one another!
    As for calibre many people use .177 for both or .22 for both HFT and hunting. HW100's now come in .20 though, worth considering as a best of both worlds calibre.

    Good luck with whatever you decide.
     
  7. Donki Oaty

    Donki Oaty Where's the time going?

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    Don't discount others before actually shouldering them!

    As Ken says go see what fits you as an individual.

    You would wouldn't you! AA all the way!
     
  8. terry1001

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    The HW100 should come with a fill adapter (will fit onto the tank hose),2 14 shot magazines and a silencer. I tried all the HW models (and most other makes) and settled on a HW100kt which I found to handle the best. You should check for yourself.
    The carbine does lose out on shot count but I've never found it to be a problem. I would suggest .177 rather than .22 (which I bought because I already had a rifle in .177). The later models do seem to have lost a bit of weight and there's not much to choose between different rifles especially after a big scope, bipod, sling etc are put on.
     
  9. DR2501

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    Haha :p

    I did go on to say shoulder as many as possible and try all the loading systems too to be sure :D
     
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    I was in your same position around eight weeks ago, browsed everything on the web and read up on every make untill I was getting confused then made up my mind and ordered the HW100 full length .177 with laminated stock.
    All I can say is it has performed way beyond what I expected of it, very accurate good amount of shots per fill and a pleasure to use.
    I have been planning hopfully to get another pcp around december as an out and out hunting rifle but what to get after this quality aint got a clue, maybe another weihrauch ?
    ATB.
     
  11. thedogsbollox

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    I am now sitting next to a hw100 carbine with thumb hole. Big big smiles.
     
  12. thedogsbollox

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    Thanks for the advice guys. Went for .177 in the end.
     
  13. DR2501

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    Nice mate, glad you're happy. Enjoy and good luck finding permission to hunt :)
     
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    Enjoy your new rifle,well i know you will.
    ATB.
     
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    You've made the right choice :up:
     
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    great choice bud you wont regret it
     
  17. thedogsbollox

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    Been looking online at HFT shooting and realise that you cannot touch your scope whilst shooting. Can you change it between pegs or not at all?
    I think its the discipline I would like to get into so I want to start out on the right foot. I wanted to go to the range and sort out my ranges/mil dots and there is not really much sense getting to the range and cranking my scope up to 16x mag if I wont be using it hunting or HFT. Is there a maximum mag for HFT in the rules? Is there a norm? My scope also has IR and AO, Where would I set the AO?
     
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    Can't change it but you can set your mag and AO anywhere, I'm shooting on 12x with an AO of 25 yard and IR on setting 3,blue.
     
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    I see so basically setting up in a mid range and making do, does it cause problems?
     
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    If you're beyond 25 yards,your target will be out of focus and if you're closer than 25 it will be out of focus,not by loads but it's enough to notice.
     

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