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Medium/lightweight underlever

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by arthur john smithsplease, Jun 10, 2015.

  1. arthur john smithsplease

    arthur john smithsplease Busy Member

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    As far as reputable brands are concerned there appear to be only two on the market:

    the medium weight Diana 430 (non Stutzen) at about 8lb and the HW57 at about 7lb.

    Both are problematic, but both can be improved to make good guns. If I were to go for the Diana I'd probably go for 177 and seek advice from Bigtoe. In the case of the HW57 I'd definitely go for 22, get rid of the front sight and have a slim barrel shroud with underlever connecter made.

    According to some figures on the web TX200 HC weighs a mere 8.5lb. That would make the walnut stocked one even lighter.

    However, much as I like the TX (had several) the HC walnut I used to own felt like a lot more than 8.3-8.5lb.

    I'm about to go out shooting, and once again, however much I enjoy their accuracy from the bench, I'm avoiding taking one of my heavier springers. Sign of age I suppose when they no longer seem attractive.

    That's why I'm considering the 430 or 57. Never thought I would.
     
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    Out of the two you mention I would go for the HW57. Reliable build quality, German engineered! And very resell-able!!!
     
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    I thought the standard 57 shot really nicely when I shot one a couple years back. It seemed a bit faster than a hw95, but not as snappy as a 99 if that helps at all :)
     
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    How about a BSA Superstar at around 8lb. Always liked the way they looked, especially the underlever latch set up.
     
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    Just my opinion of course....
    I had a '57 in .177 last summer and I couldn't fault it. Its reputation has been severely damaged by comments from people 'who knew someone' that had problems at sometime. And of course Blackpool Air Rifles have done their best to character assassinate the gun.
    Would I get another one?
    Yes, I'm currently thinking about getting one from DB Schietsport NL, got my '97k from them recently - maybe its time for another imported gun!
     
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    I have a 57 in. 177, can't fault it.great little rifle. it's currently made redundant due to my pcp guns
     
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    Last summer I won a hft charity shoot with my HW 57, beating several shooters with high end pcp's. A great rifle once mildly tuned for smoothness. Mine is .177 and easily makes full power, but shoots much sweeter at 10.5 - 11.00 fpe.

    Pete
     
  8. arthur john smithsplease

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    I had one years ago, and yes, it was a good gun. Stupidly I sold it.

    Thanks for all the replies.

    Reliable build quality and German engineering could equally be said of the Diana. Resale value would probably not be the same I admit.

    I man at the range today was shooting a Mod 34 Premium in 22, and kindly let me try it. Considering this is a long stroked gun I was very impressed. Much nicer to shoot than a HW95. And better looking. Trigger might have been too light for some, but I liked it.

    Predictably, Diana guns never seem to elicit much in the way of comment.

    I suspect most people have never tried, or even seen, one. :D

    Nice to hear so many favourable comments about the 57.
     
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    Got a modified 57 here Arthur, i never shoot it, if you want to see it let me know.
     
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    I'll certainly bear that in mind, Tony. I think I once saw a photo of it and it looked great.

    Indecision, as you know, is my middle name.

    At present I am awaiting a Diana 280 from Germany with a 6ftlb spring.

    I am also tempted by the 34 after having shot one today.
     
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    34 will be better in .177, 280 in .22 ;)

    430 in either
     
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    I would say get a 430. But then I don't follow the herd mentality. Nice solid little rifle shooting at 11.4fpe on 15.9 grain 5.50 Sovereigns. I would recommend one any day. Bit of effort to cock until you get the hang of it owing to short underlever. The only down side is the cost in this country. I got mine new for £250 from a mate in the trade, so I was well happy. I won't comment on the 57 as I've never used one.
     
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    you need to shoot my 440...22mm piston, .177, shoots softer than a .22, so im dead interested to know how good a .22 would be ;)
     

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