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Maximum effective range?

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by stevieb, Jun 13, 2014.

  1. stevieb

    stevieb Active Member

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    I was just wondering what would be the maximum range a shooter could expect from his weapon. I know there are many variables but let's just say you wanted to shoot a cutout fox sized cardboard target, you were a good shot & were using decent optics.

    What on average is the physical overall range of a good quality .22 &.177 Air rifle?

    I have an old BSA Airsporter .22 underlever. It is in good nick & shoots well, anyone have an idea of the sort of range I could expect from it (before I go out & test it for myself)?
     
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    jps norton One Hit Wonder

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    Are you wanting to shoot foxes with your BSA Airsporter .22 underlever `weapon?
     
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    No, definitely not! Probably the only effective way of killing a fox with my rifle is to wait for it to fall asleep then creep up behind it & whack it over the head with the thing. I am asking at what maximum range could you expect an air rifle to perform against a cardboard target. I didn't say bunny sized cardboard target for fear of folks speaking about effective hunting ranges. For arguments sake let's say it's a man sized cardboard target (& no I'm not wanting to shoot any men!). In fact forget the whole target thing, I am not wishing to shoot at maximum range I just wish to know effective ranges of air weapons.

    Or more simply how far will a .22 or .177 travel before it loses it's kinetic energy. If you were shooting in a field with a path 100 metres away from your position would there be any chance of the pellet travelling that far?

    On average how far will a pellet travel?

    How far would you reckon one might go after being shot from my Airsporter?
     
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    Depends on what you mean by 'effective'. Effective power for killing or just hitting the target? Or effective accuracy? The latter will depend on your skill, the former will depend on the power of your rifle.
    Edit. You replied faster than me. :)
     
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    jps norton One Hit Wonder

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    Chairgun is your friend if you know the power output of your air rifle with a certain pellet weight.
    That will give you a good indication of pellet drop in a specific calibre.
    Free download from the Hawke website :up:
     
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    Forget the whole killing/target thing! If I was to stand in the middle of a field & shoot an average .22 air rifle using standard pellets roughly how far would that pellet travel before it fell out of the air?

    I am not aiming at anything & the rifle is being held parallel to the ground.
     
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    My rifle 786 shoots a 177 8.44 grain at 786 ft/sec a 1 foot square paper at 100 yards towards 3 foot holdover but doubt it would pierce thick cardboard at that range.
     
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    if you pointed it up (as the pellet travels in an arc) then you could easily shoot 200+ meters but it wont have much power when it gets there
     
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    Ahh maximun range, mine is close on 400 yards.
     
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    The maximum range, in .22, is about 450 yards and is achieved by firung at an angle of about 30 degrees to the horizantal.
    If you fire a .22 horizantally on level ground the pellet will travel about 120 yards before hitting the ground.
    You can get all the trajectory information using Chairgun Pro, all you need to know is muzzle velocity and pellet type (plus scope height) for extra accuracy.
     
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    a .22 goes clean through coke cans at 100yards with ease ! so .177 would do ok id say lol

    atb mik
     
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    I will never know as I dont think I could hit a coke can at 100 yards :)
    Looks like another fun challange, hehee.
     
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    Try building up a stack of cans about 4 ft square - should give you a fighting chance :D
     
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    I think that much coke would give me the burps...
     
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    the effective killing range ( rabbit) would be easily up to 50 yards and possibly more. 4ft/lbs will kill a rabbit. however, a pellet fired from an air rifle as said earlier can travel a good few hundred feet . always think carefully before firing and consider the possible flight path of a pellet after a "missed target". any pellet straying over the boundary of the land you have permission to shoot on is a firearms offence and can definitely cause injury.
     
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    Thanks for the replies. The reason for the question (aside from idle curiosity) is as described by robs. It's good to know potentially how far a pellet will travel in order that you can make sure you are not going to cause problems for anyone/thing. I had budgeted on 100 yards just to be on the safe side & thought I was being optomistic.

    Can I ask Bemused what sort of rifle you have that is giving you 400 yards range? FAC?
     
  17. Ganton Gunner

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    a 177 producing 11.4ft lb will send a diablo field 8.44 grain to 100 yard with about 3.75ft lb of power left and depending on scope setup at 10x mag will be 6-7 mildots holdover
     
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    300 yards
     
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    not trying to be picky honest, BUT, you said can kill a rabbit at 50 yrds but can easily travel a couple of hundred feet.. I had a 60 yrd kill yesterday. 60 yrds = 200 feet. so did you mean will easily travel a couple of hundred yrds?

    just saying..

    Nige
     
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    Not really, if the rifle is being aimed horizantally then the pellet will drop 5 ft just before it reaches 120 yards, any deviation from horizantal will have a large effect.
    For maximum possible range the rifle needs to be inclined to about 30 degreea and the range wil be about 450 yards. The residual energy will be very low and unlikely to cause damage although it would make an audible noise if it hit glass etc. This is a possible scenario when shooting up into trees and the backdrop needs to be carefully assessed before taking aim.
    When shooting at ground game it is likely that you will be shooting downwards so the pellet probably won't travel much beyond the target but obviously care should be taken. This all relates to situations where you can see what is beyond the target, any shots taken at targets on or close to the skyline with areas which can't be observed behind the target should be considered dangerous as the pellet would have sufficient energy to harm people or livestock who might just be out of sight - they may have moved into the area after you had checked it was clear. This is known as indirect fire and is more commonly used for artillery or heavy machine guns where fire is brought to bear on targets which are hidden by the natural features of the landscape.
    No matter whether the pellet will reach people or livestock in the distance it is not good practice to shoot towards them, just consider what your initial thoughts would be if you saw a camouflaged figure 300 yards away pointing a scoped rifle at you.
     

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