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Advice Make My Awful Pistol Better

Discussion in 'Air Pistols' started by Dannn, Sep 17, 2019.

  1. Dannn

    Dannn Newbie

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    I have the SMK XS3 .177 and I have to say it's pretty awful but to be fair, at the time I bought it I didn't expect any more of it. It was a good starter to get me into air guns.
    Does anyone have any advice on how to make this crappy little gun a little less crappy?
    Cheers!
     
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    Radlad Posting Addict

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    Take it apart and polish all the insides including removing all burrs from screwholes and cocking slot. finely polish the sear / trigger mating surfaces. It then might be passable as a plinker.

    The alternate method of dealing with an XS3 is to encase it in a block of clear resin and use it as a door stop
     
  3. Slipknot88

    Slipknot88 One step beyond

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    I've got a good chop saw.....and a scrap bin:confused::eek::thumb:
     
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  4. Geezer

    Geezer Keyboard Hero

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    Do you have a nearby canal?
     
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    Geezer Keyboard Hero

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    Sorry, I see you are a new guy and asking an honest and sensible question.

    Unfortunately, the honest and sensible answer is that those things are not very good (I have owned an S2, the older version) and not much can be done to make them less bad.

    If you want to knock over cans at 6 metres, fine. Anything more sophisticated, you need a better pistol.
     
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  6. pjgtech

    pjgtech Sleep, eat, work, eat, chillout, sleep, repeat.

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    ^^^THIS^^^ :thumb:

    We've all been there, I still have a GAT and S2 myself, but I quickly moved on to something better... :)
     
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  7. shadowryder

    shadowryder "whistlin' Dixie"

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    A good step up without spending a fortune is A Beeman P17 or in co2 the SMK CP1,
    both are decent budget pistols.

    J...........
     
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  8. Nubble

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    CP1
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  9. wayno-81

    wayno-81 Engaging Member

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    Oh no, I too owned a dreaded s2 - would sometimes fire as barrel was closed. Not even as though the trigger was super light either and it would get a coat of rust overnight.
    Chinese guns have come a long way in the 20 years since I owned mine but the budget end will always be poor I’m afraid!
     
  10. Dannn

    Dannn Newbie

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    Clearly an owner of the CP1, how many shots do you get in before a cannister becomes useless?
    What's your typical running cost of one of these because they do look really good
     
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  11. Nubble

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    Hello Dann,
    In stock format the .177 CP1 will (should) give you 40-50 shots before power drops off. Maybe You can squeeze 50-60 out but the last 10 or 15 will be low powered.

    I have swapped the hammer spring in mine for a lighter version and I get 70-80 shots per bulb at around 3fpe. I sell the hammer springs for these and they take 5 mins to change. Piece of cake.
    I have a bitsa CP1 that does around 200 shots per bulb but that is a bit excessive.

    CP1 is a fine little gun for the money with a big following, cheap, accurate and easily run rings round some more expensive guns. I buy the Co2 bulbs 100 at a time for £25 delivered, pellets are RWS Geco at £4 for 500 (or use the H&N Excite Econ at £3.70/500).
    Gimme a shout if you need more help etc.

    Cheers

    Nubble
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  12. shadowryder

    shadowryder "whistlin' Dixie"

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    I too can vouch for the cp1,
    177 again but I run mine at around 5fpe cos I shoot it out to 25yds get aprox 30 shots per capsule,I also buy in bulk @around £29 per 100.
    @ 10mtres in the garden rested using a red dot I can get 50p size groups no problem, mine likes RWS superdomes.
    great piece of kit easy worked on and easily customised too if minded that way.

    J............ 20190903_171119 (1) - Edited.jpg
     
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    billy.whizz Posting Addict

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    Nubble. please where do you buy your co2 from?.thanks paul.
     
  14. shadowryder

    shadowryder "whistlin' Dixie"

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    WAS just about to ask same question LOL!!!!
     
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    billy.whizz Posting Addict

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    we will wait and see what nubble says then?:)
     
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  16. Redcap 114

    Redcap 114 Donator (Les)

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    Hi Nubble,

    Have you got the CP1 in either .177 or .22 flavour, if so, what do you think of them please?

    Best regards.
    Les.
     
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    Last load I got from JSR. They were the Milbro branded ones.
    NM products are also very competitive on price.
    :thumb:
     
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    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ;)


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    Hello Les,

    They are great. I love 'em. I love 'em more than I thought I would. I wanted a cheap, back yard plinker/target gun and didn't want a springer pistol. At the time the PCP pistols were too expensive so fell for the CP1. Got a kit from Pellpax that came with a short mod, pellets, Co2, Hawke red dot etc etc and a case for 120 quid.

    The review is HERE

    Stripdown guide is HERE

    They are cheaply made, manufacturing is not mega top quality but what do you expect for £70 ?

    Well what you get is a clunky little pistol that with an evenings work (and one of my spring kits :oops: ) can be smoothed out and transformed into a fantastic little pistol that far out-shoots itself and many others.

    I now have 3 of these wonderful little guns now and shoot them more than any of my other guns. I stripped the thread on the fill valve on my first one so had a mod carried out by Ped which is an improvement on the original. (Tip: don't leave Co2 bulbs fitted!!!)

    All of my pistols are in .177 flavour, run at around 2.5-3.5fpe and I only shoot targets at 7m. I have to dash off to work now but any more questions just PM me or post on here and I shall reply later.

    Catch you later.
    ATB

    Nubble
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  20. Redcap 114

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    Thank you very much Nubble,

    That’s a very comprehensive detailed answer to my questions and I’m very much obliged mate.

    Best regards.
    Les.
     
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