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Magazine V SS Loader

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by Macdoog, Jan 19, 2014.

  1. Macdoog

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    Zeroing my new scope today (cheers Mic!) I have noticed Im getting a few flyers which knocks my grouping back a tad. I rediscovered a single shot loader I purchased some months ago and thought Id see if it was my mag that was causing the flyers. Evidently it was! I don't think airgun mags are sophisticated enough to guarantee accurate shooting 100%. What do you lot think? Have you had inconsistency with magazines in any of your guns. Whats the causes'?
     

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    While it stands to reason that a mag is more likely to induce inconsistancies that would cause inaccuracy, in practice I think it depends on the mag design. My S410 will shoot similar groups to my NJR at 55yds, so I have no concerns about the mag system on that rifle.

    Unfortunately BSA mags aren't known for their splendidness, especially the current type in the smaller calibre which have a habit of allowing the pellets to skew in their oversize chambers. You might have more luck with harder pellets :)
     
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    I was thinking of having the indexing removed so I could use the newer mags. A rethink is due!
     
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    The R-10 mags I had were no problem at all; same groupings as the single shot loader. The one I gad in my Daystate was definitely the cause of poor groups.
     
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    What improvements could be made to an old BSA .177 mag then? Taking rough edges off, polishing...any ideas?
     
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    I must say I think any springloaded magazine tends to damage the pellet, as the springtension seems to force the pellet entering the barrel/chamber one way, thus potentially damaging that side of the pellet
    The system Falcon uses (with the gun actually turning the magazine instead of a spring) IMO is the best of any magazine type setup, as long as you set it up as good as possible.

    On my Falcon BM (@40 ft/lb in .22) the magazine is not stopping me from shooting matches (not the event, the wooden sticks one uses to light a fire)almost consistently at 45-50 meters indoors.
    This is without sorting the JSB pellets beforehand, just opening a tin, using a bit of teflon spray and just loading them into the 3 magazines I have.
    I have just designed and ordered a 3d printed single shot tray to see if it makes a difference, but that's mainly because I am now shooting it more regularly in 100 meter competitions.
    I find with the magazines I tend to get hasty, and thus missing shots I would probably make if I take a slower pace.

    A shooting buddy of mine has a Ultra with the new type magazine, the best thing he did was using a longer pellet like the JSB Exact instead of the shorter H&N FTT.
    Those tended to cause loading difficulties and thus the occasional shooting an empty barrel.
     
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    Some very good points Falcon. Maybe using a 10 shot magazine would perhaps lead a shooter to involuntary rush the shot, rather than pausing between shots when using a ss loader.
     

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