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Lubing springers with dry PTFE spray.

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by Jackroadkill, Apr 13, 2014.

  1. Jackroadkill

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    Have just picked up some dry PTFE spray, with the intention of trying it for lubricating pistons etc on my springers. I know that some AGF members have done this in the past, but I can't remember what the results were. If you've done it, how successful was it? Did you find it better or worse than moly?

    Answers on an e-postcard, please.... As usual, all advice will be gratefully received.

    JR
     
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    I will be very interested to see what responses you get to this question, as it's one I was going to ask myself. I use it myself for all kinds of lube jobs where you don't want an oily mess. As far as I know, PTFE is the slippiest stuff known to man, and is also obtainable as bar stock material for machining, so it surprises me that people use delrin on springer internals and not PTFE?
     
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    dont forget plumbers tape!!. back in olden days :rolleyes:
    i had a leyland maxi:cool: no defo not cool:rolleyes: heap of S**T but needs must and money tight and 2 nippers and wife to transport around:( sorry i digress:eek: anyway paddy hopkirk!!! remember him:up: bought out a lube with PTFE in to go in a motor engine and as my maxi sounded like a tin can full of ball bearings i put some in, as happen day before drive to north wales and loaded up, with above and mother and gear oh :D well after 20 miles or so you could have knocked me down with a feather the engine sounded well well so quite and purred like a cat so have used PTFE ever since and cant see why not try in your springer. ps sorry for the story its been one of those days:)
     
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    I always use it in springers, only in the comp chamber though and assuming that the piston seal supports the front of the piston. I use moly grease elsewhere and yes I think it is better.
     
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    I think I've heard of it being used on the spring as well - anyone have an experience of this?
     
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    Yeah, I knew I'd still have to use the moly to keep the spring in check. Cheers for the link - will have a look now.
     
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    PTFE grease?
     
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    I use ptfe grease on my springers aswell as moly I put moly on the piston and ptfe grease on the spring
     
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    I think dry moly Rubbed in would be more in keeping with other lubes used.

    I do use Tri-flow Teflon oil on my trigger mechs though, nice and slippery.

    Ichabod Armacost:-
    Ptfe is not used as spring guides, as its not stable enough and is prone to swelling up under shock.
     
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    Carbon ptf guieds are used by some as spring guides also normal ptf as been used in tuned rapids for years now ;)
     
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    Ah, cheers mate!:)
     
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    Hooo, Doooo Dat??:)
     
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    Back in the 70's and ,I think before it got the Paddy Hopkirk brand, it appeared inthe car accessory shops as an Aussy product. The claim they made for it was that they had driven an old banger across hundreds of miles of outback roads without any engine oil in the sump. The claim was that a can or two of the PTFE product had been mixed in with the car's engine oil and after running it for a while the oil had been drained out prior to the test run.
    how true the claims were I can't say but my rattling Cavalier engine went very quiet, like Ratman's, after pouring a can in.
    I haven't seen that product for ages.....or do I have better cars now and haven't looked!
    Dag
     
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    :down: BEWARE..... It is not the PTFE but the inflammable solvent used to spray the contents of the spraycan that will do the damage. The solvent will remove any prior lube. It is highly inflammable and will ignite causing possible serious damage to your rifle and you if there is any trace of it when you shoot if it has not totally evaporated.
    Personally I only ever use a good pellet lube and when the rifle is serviced only good quality lubes in moderation. 2 'smoking gun' shots are usually all there is after a service on my springers.......I have my other types serviced by their manufacturers.
    I believe I also read somewhere that PTFE also damages seals....but not certain of that info. The new type my not be affected.
     
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    I sleeved a steel guide with PTFE last year when I was having a mad scientist moment - worked well but the gun is still in a pile of projects and hasn't had more than 50 shots through it yet, but the effect was immediately noticeable.

    The only way to know how it will hold up over the long term is to shoot a lot of pellets through it and, frankly, I haven't the time for that at the moment.
     

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