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looking to get a s410 tdr

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by lee bell, Sep 3, 2014.

  1. lee bell

    lee bell Engaging Member

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    hi guys

    i sold my 850 air magnum and king ratty to get some cash to get a aa s410 tdr is there any thing i should look out for when buying one 2nd hand
     
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    Apart from the obvious things, there isn't a lot to look for really.
     
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    Go for the newer model with extended cylinder mate. Old ones consistancy and shot count was shocking. I have had both old type and new type.
     
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    the tdr i got of you last week is great, i know its a s510 action but the feel and handling are spot on for me.
     
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    any thing air arms cloverleaf is the man to ask(he knows more about them than air arms do)
     
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    X 2. Pm him, he's a v knowlegable and helpful chap
     
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    As someone suggested i'd try to get a newer one. the s410f tdr has double the shot capacity of the older ones. my new " f " version can do 70-80 shots in .177 where as the older ones only did 30-40. very nice rifles indeed.
    i love mine and find it's the gun i use most. if buying second and i'd look for wear and tear around the end of the barrel as the silencer is taken off alot so there might be damage.
    and the stock screw on dial can wear abit. very accurate guns though.
     
  8. buffy vampire slayer

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    It baffles me as to why anyone would want a take down rifle unless they travelled to their permission on a bike/motorbike or bus!
     
  9. lee bell

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    i have kids and limited space in the man cave this means i can hide it out the way easier when not using it
     
  10. Clubshot

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    Worth Checking out the Phoenix Fast Fire Ten - much larger Shot capacity

    Have seen TDR's on my club Ranges but many gave up on them for low Shot count

    BOB/R
     
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    errrrrrr,if you`ve got kids (and they`re under 18) your gun should be secured so as they cannot gain access to it:up:
    if it`s not you are breaking the law which has been in place for about the last couple of years:google2ut:
    it`s best to stay safe for you and the kids:cool:
     
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    I have had a few take downs. Easy to transport, often small light and discreet.

    I had mine as i have motorbikes, but i also have 2 permissions where the take down played its part too.

    One i have to park the car and walk through busy public walks upto my field, the other i have to park up and walk through a busy livery with lots of stables to my baited up rat area, other than the owner, no one knows my business there and i want it to stay that way. I could do without hasstle for me or landowner.
     
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    lol - cheers guys :D

    Without writing a whole buyer's guide (again, probably) there's the standard stuff to look out for on all PCPs - general condition; damage, corrosion, signs of abuse, smooth and correct operation of all parts - bolt, mag, trigger etc. How much air does it have in it? If it's completely empty assume it has a leak and budget accordingly.

    On to 400 series specifics - check muzzle energy with AA pellets at around 160bar; as a ballpark simplification, if it's less than 11ftlb the exhaust valve probably wants replacing (as they all do after a year or so :rolleyes:) so again budget for this.

    TDR specific stuff - again check muzzle energy - the striker and spring setup is different to other 400 series guns and can sometimes struggle to make a decent amount of energy. In addition check the anti-tamper rubbish - the stuff on the standard rifle is pretty nasty; the TDR takes it to a whole new level of stupidity and difficulty. Check the gun hasn't been damaged through removal attempts - if the AT is still there and the gun needs work lowball the seller - it will cost a fair bit to get a friendly gunsmith to remove it and you don't want to send it back to AA as they'll just cram all the crap back in again once the work is done :down:

    Others make a fair point about the later guns and longer cylinders; however the flip-side is that earlier guns didn't have anti-tamper and IMO are far more desirable as a result. Also if you're buying it more as a collectable and less as a working gun, the earlier, shorter-cylinder equipped guns are more inkeeping with the original concept of the TDR. If you find a late one that's had the AT removed (without damaging the gun) don't be afraid to pay a bit of a premium as it will be worth it once the gun needs to be stripped for whatever reason..

    Finally, as always there's no such thing as a free lunch and the TDR setup is no exception - you'll pay for the privilege of being able to pull it to bits in other ways - ergonomics, handling, AT, cost - if you don't expressly need the TDR facility a standard 410 might suit you better ;)
     
  14. lee bell

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    my guns have been stored in a gun cabinet at a friends farm until recently so ill get a cabinet/lock box secured to a wall somewhere. i still think a tdr has advantages but would you recommend the standard s410 over it? also whats this anti tamper your referring to i didnt have any thing like that on my 850 airmag. the man reason i want a tdr is the fact it packs away tidy and its lighter as ill be using it for hunting rabbits and corvids
     
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