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Looking To Buy My First Air Gun/Rifle - Need Some Advice!

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by Vanchatron, Jul 3, 2008.

  1. Vanchatron

    Vanchatron Well-Known Member

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    Hi there. First of all, yes I am old enough (I'm 20 years old) so hopefully that gets that out the way.

    Anyway, I'm looking to purchase my first proper Air Gun/Rifle & would like some advice. In the past I have had a real basic .22 Air Rifle given to me by my dad, but didn't get much use out of it as it broke.

    I have also had BB guns in the past (mainly the Walther P99 which had a really great "feel" to it), but now I'm looking to move up to something more interesting. The thing is, I'm not sure where to start considering there's so many different guns out there. I don't know whether to get a rifle or a pistol, although if I was to get a pistol, I would want it to be metal & not some flimsy plastic crap that's going to break easily.

    What do you recommend as a decent starter gun for somebody? Also, do you recommend a pistol or a rifle? I will mainly be using the gun in my backyard & shooting at targets I make or buy. I'm looking for something with a good feel to it, and easy to handle. Also, I don't want to be spending hundreds of pounds on a gun, so I'd rather keep the price under £150 if possible.

    Will I need any accessories etc (e.g. cleaning kit, case?)

    And finally, I'd rather purchase the gun off the Internet, so if you know of any decent websites that sell good guns, I'd appreciate knowing.

    Thanks in advance for your help guys!
     
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    Hello and welcome,for £150 pounds you wouldn't be able to buy a decent rifle new.You will probably be better off purchasing a pistol.If you buy new on the internet the gun will have to be sent to a registered fire arms dealer as the law is it cannot be sent to your address.You can buy second hand though.Have a look here at pistols :up:

    http://www.airgunbuyer.com/subcat.asp?cat=Pistols
     
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    Sadly you won't be purchasing of the internet unless it's a secondhand private sale or you are importing from abroad. New sales and secondhand sales through a dealer over teh phone or internet are now banned by our glorious government so it looks like a trip to your local gunshop and be limited to what they sell or will get for you. It was the Violent Crime Reduction Act that has robbed you of cheap and convenient internet sales.
     
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    For purely back garden plinking the Baikal IZH61 is a good performer or if you want more traditional a BSA meteor will last a lifetime with very little maintainance. For a pistol the S&W 586 is streets ahead of other CO2 pistols but co2 can be fairly loud and annoy the neighbours. Spring pistols are generally quieter.
     
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    You can still purchase off the internet and the gun doesn't have to be delivered to a registered firearms dealer this is a misconception of the vcr act.
    Try www.pellpax.co.uk they still deliver
    The vcr act means that the shops have to complete the transaction face to face which means they have to personally deliver the gun they can no longer use couriers there are many shops that still offer a delivery service.
    Look at the pellpax site you will find lots of suitable guns for you
     
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    You'll need to go to a shop (rfd - registered firearms dealer) if you want to buy a new gun, however second hand rifles can be posted.

    For a first gun I'd recommend a springer - that's a spring gun, instead of a more complicated PCP which runs on pressurized air from a cylinder.

    The rifle you had was probably a spring gun by the sounds of it.

    Have a look at the following:

    - BSA Supersport
    - BSA Lightning
    - Weihrauch HW57
    - Weihrauch HW95

    These are all good starter guns, ask anyone what their first rifle was and they'll probably say BSA, because they're built well and last a long time. Weihrauch are a quality brand, you won't get much better when it comes to spring guns, although the HW95 will be a little bit more expensive than the rest of those listed.

    When it comes to calibre, this is a first gun, so you shouldn't be worrying too much! People will try and push you either way, the truth is that for an inexperienced shooter there are no real benefits for either, because you won't be doing any serious hunting or anything like that.

    Good luck with whatever you decide on - I've named just a few, there are more out there!

    If you get the chance, have a look at Gamo too :)
     
  7. jamjon

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    As i said above you DO NOT have to go to a shop to buy a new gun there are many shops that still deliver i don't know where you live but pellpax cover most of the country the airgun centre cover essex, cambs, oxfordshire, herts, norfolk and suffolk and avalon guns will deliver around the somerset area search the internet and you will find many shops that offer a delivery service and the websites will tell you the areas they deliver too
     
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    Well you could pay extra for them to deliver it, but then you have to wait until they're in your area, it's a better idea to go to your local shop because then you can view what they have and get a feel for guns in your price range to see which you like best. Why pay more for delivery?
     
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    because they carry guns the local shop doesn't or because they are cheaper or because there is no local shop there are lots of reasons but the point is the information that was being given in the post was wrong mail order is still available guns do not have to be posted to an rfd that only applies to courier deliveries Reccomending going to a local shop is onething but telling someone who doesn't know any better that they have to because the vcr act ended mail order as was posted above is wrong and that is the point i was trying to get accros i'm not saying don't go to local shops i'm just pointing out that all the posts before mine had the wrong information
     
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    OK Jamjon that's good :up:
     
  11. Vanchatron

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    That link seems perfect as I actually live in Blackpool. I never knew about that shop until now.

    To be honest (and I should have said in the 1st post), I'm looking for a gun that has a unique look to it as opposed to your basic .22 air rifle look, if you know what I mean. You said £150 wouldn't be enough, so how much do you recommend spending?

    Thanks to everyone else aswell, you've been a great help so far.
     
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    If you want something that looks different take a look at a weirhauch hw35 limited edition
     
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    You say you want something which looks different, but in what way?

    There are some rifles, of Chinese origin, that look the mutt's nuts and are very cheap, but have reliability and quality of workmanship problems. Often they need additional tuning, at a cost, and even then some struggle to match the established European makes.

    As others have suggested, a second hand, spring powered rifle is, in my opinion, the way to go. For £150 you could buy a good s/h BSA or Weihrauch. For £50 more you will even find models such as Air Arms Tx200. Furthermore, any of these three makes will last you some time and will be more than accurate enough for your needs.

    As far as pistol or rifle goes, then it depends what you are going to use the gun for. Plinking with pistols in a back garden is great fun, but unless you start to spend serious money then you're not going to get a pistol which is sufficiently accurate for serious competition. However an air rifle can be used for plinking, and if at a later date you want to shoot tragets at a club or local event then they will be OK for your needs,

    As you suggest, get along to BAR, just look at what they have on offer. Ask their advice, and even look at the price of their second hand stock.

    Good Luck

    Tazz
     
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    When you say you want something that looks different, I have some ideas: look at the Diana mod. 21 "Panther" - synthetic stock, or the Gamo range (I think I said this earlier) - I'm not sure exactly what you're looking for but they make some "different" looking guns at good prices.
     
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    Maybe a Stealth they look different. :)
     

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