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Looking for suggestions on a new rifle from a Former, experienced shooter

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by Noodleman, Apr 14, 2014.

  1. Noodleman

    Noodleman Newbie

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    Hi Guys,

    I've been out of the shooting game for quite a while and i've finally convinced myself to invest into some new kit. I sold all of my gear a few years ago. I had a collection of PCP rifles, springer rifles and pistols but due to them not being used as often as I would have liked I decided to unlock their value and sold everything.

    I happened to stumble into a shotting ground a couple years back and hired an AA S200 for the morning to play around with in the range, I ended up walking away with a cheap springer setup for messing around in the garden as I missed my old rifles. I picked up a Stoeger X20 .22 which I still have today.

    I am currently looking for something to help sort out a vermin problem, the X20 is doing the job but I am not that happy with it over range for those hedge diving bunnies! It is a good rifle, but not suited to what I want as it is quite loud. I've had the luxury of owning a few PCP rifles in the past, my favourite being the Daystate MK3 177, the most accurate and consistently tight grouping rifle I ever had!

    I would love to get the Daystate MK4, but I just can't afford it at the moment. I am on a maximum budget of around £500 to £600, but that needs to get me a rifle, scope, charging kit (if PCP). This is where I would really appreciate the feedback of the forum.

    I've decided that I am going to go for a .177 rifle this time because I rate the higher accuracy over distance. I am aware the stopping power is reduced over distance when compared with .22, but a well placed head shot is still a well placed head shot regardless. As I am intending to use it for hunting I am looking for a rifle with power up to the top end of the legal non FAC limit.

    I would love a PCP rifle, but due to my budget I am not convinced I will be able to afford the setup as with the PCP rifle I would also need a suitable scope and the charging kit, all of which is extra cost. I am happy to use a pump rather than tank. A multi shot mag would be very helpful is one of the main reasons why I would rather have PCP, as well as the noise levels. Are there any PCP rifles / setups that you think would fit my requirements in my budget?

    However, I am thinking that my best budget choice is to go for a gas ram, single shot rifle. The main gain here being the noise reduction over spring. The BSA LIGHTNING XL SE .177 caught my eye but after doing some research there is a lot of variation in the way they shoot and I found complains about the build quality and random drop off which has put me off. Same question as above, if you were in the same position what would you choose and why?

    I am going to be heading to a few of my local ranges / shops over the next week to check out what they have and see if anything jumps off the shelf, but ideally would like to single out a particular rifle and hunt it down :)

    Thanks in advance for any replies
     
  2. GIRLYPANTS

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    have a look see on gun star.... set the parameters to what you can afford ect and see what set ups are going about, you should get a pcp set up for your price range, then with the choices you like come back here with all the details and we can see whats best value for you

    example, bsa scorpion with hawke 3-9x50 scope and pump
     
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    There's been some good 2nd hand PCP packages come up recently for your budget, but it all depends on how long you can wait to see if anything crops up local to you.
    If you choose the springer route then the world is your oyster. As GP stated above, why not visit a dealer shoulder as much as you can, make a shortlist and then discuss the merits of each with the fine members of the forum.
    Good luck with your quest.
     
  5. mattyts

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    Accuracy over range is the same in both calibers,trajectory is what changes.

    You won't get many recommendations for new BSA springers,to put it simply,QC is crap and they are pretty costly for what you get.

    See if you can pick up a BSA Scorpion or Ultra in multishot or an Air Arms S410,all three are good guns and I think the S400 series are one of the best production PCPs ever made.

    For a scope,try a Hawke Sport HD,about £50 new,I've had 7.
     
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  6. Noodleman

    Noodleman Newbie

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    Thanks for the information and links, I will follow up on those and see where I end up.

    Matty, you are right, I just explained poorly :).

    Pidlar, in an ideal world I would like to get something sorted by the end of the week, gotta scratch that itch ! but if I can't find the right package / items then I will wait as long as I need to.
     
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    Have you checked the sales section? There's a nice Falcon Prarie
     
  8. cloverleaf

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    Were I in your situation I'd be aiming straight for a used Air Arms S410, preferably pre-anti-tamper. It's a buyer's market atm and if you shop around you might just get a complete setup for £600.

    Leave the BSA springers and gas rams alone - they're crap :up:
     
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    Complete s410 on bb s but in leeds pump scope bag ect £400 trusted seller bought a couple of pcps off him
     
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    Bargains do come around now and again.
    I got a HW101,silencer,scope,bag and bottle for £500 the other week,bit of a steal for the price to be honest although it wasn't from this forum ;)
     
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    hello, if you go down the springer route HW95K in .177 good for HFT and hunting, mind you if your lucky to get that AA S410 KIT!!!!!
     

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