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Looking for FAC air rifle

Discussion in 'Firearms Certificate (FAC) Guns' started by eddy123, Mar 26, 2014.

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    Hi I am looking for an FAC air rifle. I have seen a Hatsan 44-10 set at 38 lbs ft and a Gunpower stealth. Whats the better rifle?
    Any feedback is greatly appreciated

    edd
     
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    think I would go for a rapid myself,but out of the 2 i would go for the stealth ,
     
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    Like what he said
     
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    Yep, what both of these chaps have said.
     
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    Thanks for the replies. The rapid looks a bit chunky if you don't mind me saying, however if it does the job and is reliable I will go and have a look at one. Has anyone shot the sumatra or career`s have heard mixed reports, what puts me off the stealth is a few bad reviews I have read and it is one shot only, however it has a big bottle so not filling up all the time. The hatsan looks great and have read you can buy a spare tube for this as been told it gets 20 shots per fill at 38 ft lbs.

    Thanks again for the help and advice
    edd
     
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    I'd go for the rapid as well, there's a lot of expertise available for them.

    John
     
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    I wouldn't thank you for the Stealth - the Hatsan would run very nicely IMHO around the mid twenties, and give more shots as a result.

    Do you need to be in the thirties ?

    If so you need a buddy bottle gun rather than a tube gun.
     
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    Thanks for the reply, my research brought me to a buddy bottle or spare tube, the hatsan looks ok and does what it says on the tin, research so far leading me to air ranger or rapid, guess I have to up my budget. I read somewhere that you can by a spare tube for the hatsan, does anyone know if this is correct? All very confusing so thanks for all the helpful advice
    edd
     
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    there's a .20 on airgunb*s, comes with scope 2 mags and a 12 ltr cylinder for £350
     
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    don't know where u r in lancs im in burnley I have air arms 400 fac im going to put up forsale its a nice one in a mpr stock its running abt 24ftp if you are interested nice and light in .22 and has a magazine I think its 8 shot in lovely condition im am a range officer at burnley club one or two off the lads had hatsons and they have all gone wrong wouldn't buy one mate they arnt the best . cheers Bernard
     
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    You will lose some air when you swap the cylinders out. Granted, you can buy spares cylinders for about 70 quid but you will lose some air just by fitting it.

    IMHO you either need to be no higher than the mid 20 FPE range for a tube air rifle or it has to be a buddy bottle if you want higher output, otherwise shot count becomes useless.

    I'm currently looking at a Logun Gladiator running over 30 FPE, but it has a tube at the front and a bottle in the stock so shot count is still impressive and very useful.

    I'm not a big fan of buddy bottle guns but, to be honest, you have comparatively few choices available as an overall package if you want high FPE from a PCP and a Rapid is about the best overall combination.

    I've owned a Hatsan AT 44-10 and I'd certainly have another, but I wouldn't be able to make 20 FAC shots work when I often go through 100+ in a long day's shooting.
     
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    You can get a spare 232 bar buddy bottle for a rapid for £90, then fit a Ben Taylor regulator, and i think you'll get 70 or so shots from a buddy bottle running FAC levels.
     
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    Thanks for all the advice the rapid looks like a great gun, also seen an airwolf on here roughly same money that could be tuned up, re the cost Im wondering if best to get a 22 rimmy and use subs in it ? always liked an air rifle though as so quiet compared to anything else!

    Cheers

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    Ive got both.i kinda hedge towards air as its kinda more skilful. Fac air runs out at 80yd but the rimmy is usable at 120yd.but air half the price to run and less dangerous.
     
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    ive got both a ranger at 40 ftlbs and a rapid mk 2 with ben taylor reg at 30 ft lbs and tbh i reach for the rapid 9 out of 10 times just cos i feel more comfortable with it.
     
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    Thanks for the replies and advice, have seen a couple of rapids at the 5-550 mark they certainly hold their value, whats the difference between mark 1 and 2,as I noticed a slight difference with the trigger guard, one closed one looks like half guard wooden. May go 22 rimmy and fac air and chop in my 20g mossberg pump hushpower as pretty heavy!
    Thanks again
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    .22LR is great for longer range assuming your land is approved for it and suitably safe to shoot on.

    FAC air, once you buy into it, is infinitely cheaper to run, albeit at a little less range.

    Many of my shoots won't allow firearms (that includes FAC air) anywhere near so there is always a case for sub 12 FPE for what I do, but if I'm looking to reach further out FAC air and .22LR offer a lot of scope for respectively longer ranges.

    Some people like 17HMR but I consider them cost prohibitive as a rabbiting gun.

    Well, it is if you shoot as many as I do...

    :rolleyes:
     
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    I have my .22 FAC and love it but wouldnt consider a Hatsan or steath personally.I personally spend my hard earnt on Daystate rifles so I would look at a Daystate or Rapid/IAW or Air Arms, .22 at 28-30ftlb on 16/18gr pellets.This will cover you to 70/80 yars with practise and we should all be able to acheive this ! ATBMatt
     
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    pretty much narrowed it down to the rapid or air ranger in fac,seen a walnut huntsman classic 30ft lbs 22 shots, tough call as the rapid and ranger I would expect more shots per fill even though fac, am I right to assume this?

    think I will chop my mossberg hushpower in against an fac rifle as will definitely get more use, I want to `dispatch` at around 70-80 yards will a 30ft lbs do this?

    Thanks for the advice it is much appreciated :)

    edd
     
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    Am still looking for fac air rifle, got a 22 rimmy and mossberg 500 pump 20 g hushpower could px if anyone is interested

    Cheers edd
     

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