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Discussion in 'Introduce yourself' started by sugarfr33, Feb 22, 2021 at 2:48 PM.

  1. sugarfr33

    sugarfr33 Newbie

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    Hi everyone, new member here, grateful for the opportunity to join the community. Reevaluating my entertainment choices due to pandemic, I think it will be a long while before things will get back to "normal". I am looking for a new hobby, something I can play with in the garden, get my kids to spend more time outside and maybe entertain friends with. Air rifle or pistol came to mind and I am trying to chose my first gun. I must have watched every YouTube video and I am still none the wiser. There is an airgun club about 20 minute drive from where I live (closed now obviously until restrictions on outdoor sport end) and I must pay them a visit, but in the meantime, I am after something that:
    • can be used in my garden without alerting the neighbours too much
    • can be used to dispatch an occasional rodent trying to burrow under my deck
    • doesn't cost more than £500 (for a rifle)
    • I can potentially use for some target shooting if I like the airgun club without other shooters rolling on the floor laughing
    I could buy an air pistol but as far as I am aware, they are not powerful enough to deal with a rat quickly and humanely, on the other hand, an advantage of a pistol is that it is small and I can even use it in my garage without attracting anyone's attention. On the other hand, a decent pistol (not a BB toy) can be worth £200+, which is almost the price of a basic starter PCP (like Gamo GX-40). I saw a review of Gamo PT-85 Blowback Tactical but that is £150 (half the price of GX-40) and may be a bit of fun, but I think it is really more of a toy. On the other hand, the longest distance I can shoot in my garden is 18 metres (I live in a new build house, garden sizes are not very generous) or 10 metres if I want to use back wall of my garage as a backstop, rather than an outer fence (may not sit too good with neighbours). Basically then, should I:
    • get something like PT-85 blowback (or tactical with extra gadgets) and just accept it is a toy
    • get something like SMK Victory CP2 Multi but although it is fully powered as a pistol, doesn't look realistic at all and as a rifle, it doesn't feel like something people would use for club shooting - but perhaps flexible enough to play around in my garden and maybe even get rid of a pesky rat from not too far away
    • forget about toys and either get one of the £500 Gamo kits (plenty for sale with a GX-40 or Phox, a scope, moderator and sometimes even a stirrup pump and a slip) but that is likely not be very useful in a small garden
    • spend a bit more and buy a slightly more respectable PCP rifle for £500-600 and buy other gear/accessories individually - but then I will be spending twice my budget and end up with something I can use for target shooting at a range, but to big/powerful to wield around a small garden.
    I am leaning towards getting a pistol first and if I like it, and/or like the local club, upgrade to a more powerful/suitable rifle for target shooting. Any feedback greatly appreciated!
     
  2. Lukeypoodle

    Lukeypoodle Engaging Member

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    Glock 19 NBB for the garden leaves you about £380 for a rifle. That'll get you an HW99, tune and scope. Job jobbed.
     
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    Rat Man Comfortably Numb

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    Hi and welcome to the forum!
     
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    mikeyhall1 Amazing Poster

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    Me personally, and they get rave reviews from very serious shooters.......

    I would get a Gamo kit, be it Phox, Coyote or GX etc.

    Difference between the three is the stock and number of shots mainly, all will require a silencer so of the kit doesn’t come with on (the GX doesn’t IIRC) then budget £40-£50 for one.

    Also worth looking at buying the rifle as an individual items and adding the following-

    Scope - a Hawke Vantage 3-9x40AO would be perfect (better than the supplied scope in a kit)
    5-7 litre divers bottle (personally for me better than “pumping”
    Gun Slip

    I reckon you’ll still come in around if not a bit more that £500 and you’ll have a nicer set up to start with.

    I can’t fault the rifles though.
     
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    mikeyhall1 Amazing Poster

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    And welcome to the forum
     
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    mikeyhall1 Amazing Poster

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    Also worth noting that you can get a lot more for your money second hand, and the sales section on this forum would be the best place to buy mate.
     
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    sugarfr33 Newbie

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    many thanks for all advice!
     
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    Katoom390 Engaging Member

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    Welcome to the forum.
     
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    Welcome to the forum Sugar.

    Have you considered a CP1?
    Should be able to pick one up for around 80-100 quid and will be spot on for 10m possibly even more.
    Think of it as a CP2 without the rifle barrel and a better stock.
    CP2 does give you more options but with a crappy stock.
    :thumb:
     
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    Byronic Good thing we are all different, eh?

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    Hi.
    One piece of advice, if I may?
    Please make sure that you have a secure backstop behind your targets.
    Even a relatively low powered pistol will go through most fences.

    As has been said, secondhand might be wiser at first - wider choice and you will recoup most of your outlay if you decide to sell on.

    Just focus on safety first and having fun second, please.

    Good luck.
     
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    nevadacowboy Keyboard Hero

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    :welcome::welcome::welcome: All good advice from the guys above.
     
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    pjgtech Sleep, eat, work, eat, chillout, sleep, repeat.

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    :welcome:
    I used to used to take my CP2 down the local range, no-one laughed, in fact a few were keen to have a go with it, great little starter rifle, (co2 limitations accepted). Pistol, Rifle, single shot, multi shot, lightweight, etc.
    Or just get a S/H Air Arms S410 as you'll end up getting one at some point anyway if you stick with it... :D
     
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    A very warm :welcome: to our fine forum, it’s good to have you join us … :thumb:
     
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    Wilco Happy airgunner

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    A very warm :welcome: mate,

    Its lovely to hear you want to take up this noble sport and is a great way to spend time with family and friends.

    I would agree with the advice given and try the gammo kits for starters.

    Having a pistol is all well and good until you see ratty and thinks it's worth a shot, BIG NO NO. No pistol, no temptation.

    Let me also alleviate any anxiety about joining a club. They WILL NOT laugh at your kit, clubs a are a great way to gain skills, knowledge and very good friends in a safe organised environment.

    Be warned, it can become very addictive:D

    Atb

    Mike

    There will be folk there with all sorts of guns , vintage, basic Springer right through to the top end stuff but ALL sharing the same passion.
     
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    thispoison On The Road To Nowhere

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    Welcome along! :nana:
     
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    Another vote for the CP1 as suggested by Mr CP1 (Nubble) himself. A lot of gun for a little money, easy to strip if the urge takes you, fit a moderator and it’s very quite, print some paper targets and challenge yourself every time you use it. Backstops have been mentioned, buy a cat for the rats and welcome to the forum.
     
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    Howdy and :welcome: to our airgun community. :thumb:
     
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    Welcome along to the forum....:up:
     
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    Hi sugar,

    I bid you a very warm welcome to our very fine forum, enjoy mate.

    Regards.
    Les.
     
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