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Long barrel or short ?

Discussion in 'Shotguns (SGC)' started by jonesy185, Mar 16, 2014.

  1. jonesy185

    jonesy185 Busy Member

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    Hi guys , what's you're opinion on 12 gauge barrels such as , long or short barrel is better performance ?? Oh and what choke is your best for high flying birds ? I'm currently using full on my sxp along with shot 6 32 grams .

    I would like to get hold of a three quarter choke but can't seem to find any that would fit the sxp ?

    Cheers guys
     
  2. engraver

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    Always longer with a slight decrease in handling, but better spread and shot string at longer ranges because velicity performance is greatly affected by each inch you loose from the barrel length.

    I know because I shot 28" then progressed to 30" then bought a 26" semi for the pigeons and Ive had to go up to 32grms and above now as I noticed the velocity decrease immediately, Ive done 2000 cartridges through the semi, and now cant shoot the 30" half as well, it would take me a fair few cartridges now to get me used the 30 again.

    On the real highbird shoots don't be surprised to see them shooting 34" inch barrelled Italian custom jobs with custom chokes.

    Personally on form I will use my 3/4 and full with a 30inch barrelled beretta on anything as Im sure this is capable at 60 yrds and maybe a bit more with the right shell, ie 32grm and above.
     
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    For high birds a long barrel and tight choke. The length of the barrel helps greatly with keeping your swing going in a consistent way.
    For hide shooting a shorter barrel and a little less choke as your swing will be more stop start as the birds zig zag.
    If shooting really high birds 60 yards plus you will need a good quality full or a tighter specialist choke. Plus a quality heavy load cartridge 34 grams plus in no 5 shot or above.

    Here are loads of invector plus chokes.

    http://www.midwayuk.com/epages/Midw...dway_UK/Categories/655/9199/20024/11519/19269

    Cheers Andy
     
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    Hi Jonesy, when I was shooting with shotguns I used 3/4 and Full to great effect on high birds, it was great for longer range rabbits etc. atb Paul.
     
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    Cheers guys
     
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    I was told modern cartridges will be propelling the shot cup at max velocity within 10" from the breech. This means barrel length has no bearing on measured velocity unless you are using huge magnum loads with progressively burning powders. As for the semi auto, yes, they do sacrifice velocity to cycle the action unless it's recoil as opposed to gas operated. I did a side by side comparison using my old winny 1200 against my mates side by side AYA. Same cartridges produced noticeably deeper dents in a sheet of ally from the AXA.
     
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    lenght of barrell does not affect the shot or shot string at all.the shorter the barrell the "quicker"handling the gun will feel as less to move about,a longer barrel steadies your swing and some feel it gives them a better sight on longer birds,longer barrels also slow your ability to stop the gun after you have fired so it can help to continue your swing,shart barrels are good for walked up or hide shooting as you don't always have time to track the target.personally I think 30" are about right.But the balance of a gun affects all this as some guns can be weighted forward of the hinge pin and different makers make barrels lighter or heavier than same lenght barrels by a different maker,best to go and try out and if you can shoot it.
    As for chokes it's best to pattern your gun as 3/4 chokes from one brand might be as tight as full from another.
     
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    Look on teagues website for inv plus chokes, barrel length is all about feel, I have a 26" o/u winchester which is perfect for fast close clays or hide work, but tall birds I would tend to choke up to 3/4, I hit clays as far out as my mates with their 30 & 32" sporters but dtl I am a little under barrelled , a lot of pump and semi users use 26 or 28" barrels as the gun is so much longer, 30" being reserved for the trap disciplines
     

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