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Lily Allen’s Phoney Rape Allegation

Discussion in 'General chit chat' started by tinmanofkent, Sep 13, 2019.

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  1. tinmanofkent

    tinmanofkent God

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    Lily Allen drank so much she woke up in bed with someone she trusted in the music industry.

    This is now framed as her being the victim of a sexual assault.

    I’m sorry but I’m not accepting this. The media are giving her air time and the record label have issued a statement saying it’s not acceptable, blah, blah, blah.

    You know what I think? I think she is a trashy girl who chose to drink an obscene amount of booze, knowing full well it lowers your inhibitions and slept with an executive in the business she works in. This isn’t a rape. What happens if the man in question makes the identical allegation against her?

    What do you make of these allegations?
     
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    PW1 Shooting the breeze.

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    The law says that if a woman is intoxicated she can't give permission to have sex with her. Have sex with a drunk at your peril.

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    Well if she’s almost comatose that’s ok, but how drunk is too drunk?
     
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    I think that she hasnt been in the news for a while and because she's a publicity seeking twot she has to come up with something shocking to get noticed and a little bit of sympathy from all the celeb sheep
     
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    Does it say the same for a man? Why couldn’t he claim the same thing?

    I would not wish to be a judge or juror tasked with deciding how drunk someone had been in the past and whether they consented.
     
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    The law doesn't say how much alcohol/drugs, just that if she is intoxicated she can't give permission.

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    Josh K Not enough range time....

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    If someone is too drunk to consent then it is rape. Simple. Please don't go down the road of victim-blaming.
     
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    As we know, women are vulnerable creatures, I think it may apply to a man if another man takes advantage of him when he is intoxicated, but nothing is clear.

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    I must have been raped many times then. One thing's for sure, I wouldn't have gone near them if it wasn't for the beer. :ooops:
     
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    Just because she woke up next to someone, doesnt mean anything went on... i have slept with several female friends in the past and nothing happened except we slept in the same bed
     
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    Here’s the BBC piece, which includes a video ‘interview’

    She chats away with her usual croaky ‘vocal fry’ :down: something fishy about all of this...

    Would be nice if the interviewer used the word ‘alleged’ when discussing the matter.

    Lily Allen says 'record label failed to act on assault' https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-49682923
     
  12. tinmanofkent

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    Which women are vulnerable? The ones who dress in see-through tops and drunk so much their memory fails.

    Lily Allen isn’t exactly the Vicar’s daughter. I think the blame lies at her door for the choices and actions she has taken.
     
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    I wonder if that would relate in reversal? Sex equality and all that.
     
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    I suppose all this can be a avoided, if when questioned you politely inform the police you are not a man and they are out of order for assuming you identify as a man. When infact you identify as a gender fluid fridgefreezer.

    ????
     
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    Would a court side with you if you found yourself a defendant on such an allegation as Allen has made?
     
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    you know damn well they wouldn't James.... i think those women that falsely accuse men of rape should get sentenced to the same amount of time the man would have got if he had been guilty.... it would stop these accusations in a heartbeat
     
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    I’m glad you said that. It is so dangerous when the courts start making serious crimes of things most people may well have done without charge.
     
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    Seeing as most of us wouldn't exist if our parents hadn't had one too many down the Dog & Duck, where does this leave the poor bloke when the woman wakes up the morning after, regretting last night's fumble?
    And if she's too drunk to consent, what if he's too drunk to ask?
    I've got 4 kids, and on each occasion I certainly didn't ask permission.
    It's one of the stupidest, most ill thought out laws ever made, and yet another pathetic attempt to shift responsibility from someone who's sober enough to say yes to another drink, but apparently too drunk to say no to sex. Many an innocent man will suffer for it.
     
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    PW1 Shooting the breeze.

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    I hope he was gentle with you;)

    Regards
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    Good point - I may not have known. :oops::eek:
     
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