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"like For Like" Variations..

Discussion in 'Firearms Certificate (FAC) Guns' started by cloverleaf, Sep 17, 2019.

  1. cloverleaf

    cloverleaf Super Moderator Staff Member Mod/Admin

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    Probably a stupid question with an obvious answer, but what are the constraints of getting a "like for like" variation...?

    A while ago I managed to swap a slot on my ticket for a .22LR semi-auto rifle for a .22LR LBP without getting stung for the variation fee (which surprised me a little, but I suppose they were the same calibre).

    I'm now wondering if I can get away with chopping in one of my other free slots (probably a muzzle loading pistol) for a mod.. anyone have any experience of similar / think I'll get away with like-for-like?

    Ta :p
     
  2. chrisbaker42

    chrisbaker42 Busy Member

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    Basically you can swap any slot for any other gun or moderator provided they are happy for you to have the new calibre.
     
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    2506sendero Legend in his own mind & living on the edge.

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    There should be no problem here as already stated, a 1-4-1 is just that, a straight exchange when you sell a gun on, or have an unused slot on your FAC.
    A friend of mine has just done a 1-4-1 for an unused .22 sound mod slot to a .36 cal. BP pistol :thumb:
     
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  4. Mortimer

    Mortimer Lord Haw Haw

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    Never had any problems with similar swaps to what you describe.
     
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    Issac Posting Addict

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    I recently did a 1-4-1 variation .22lr for a .17 hmr, no charge was made.
     
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    mmamonster Big Poster

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    I have never had to pay for a 1 4 1 varation when I was under Staffordshire , now I am in Cheshire not sure if there will be a charge. Thinking of getting rid of the .17hmr and getting something else.
    Atb
     
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    2506sendero Legend in his own mind & living on the edge.

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    It shouldn't vary from force to force where charges are concerned - but as we are all too well aware, goal posts do tend to get shifted about a lot ;)
     
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    rich79 Lovin the smell of cordite in the morning

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    The only time there's a fuss is if say you're a club shooter & want to get a hunting gun or vice versa, but that's just to do with "good reason" & the land you'll be shooting on.
    Theres no difference between a rifle, lbr, mod, an extra barrel etc, its all classed as one item that needs a slot, so as long as you've got good reason then off you go.
     
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    buffy vampire slayer Keyboard Hero

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    a firearm on ticket is a firearm on ticket and as long as you can show good reason to swap/possess then there is no reason that you can't do what you want really.
     
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    It is not "Like-4-Like" it is "One-4-One".

    It doesn't matter if you are changing an LPB for a moderator, or a 50cal for an FAC air rifle there is no fee, unless you are increasing the number of slots on your FAC. The only issue is with your reason to possess the 'new' item and if you have a place to safely and legally shoot the new acquisition same as any other item on your FAC.
     
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    EastmidsHD Keep pullin' that trigger..

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    Edited... Nothing to see here move along..
     
  12. cloverleaf

    cloverleaf Super Moderator Staff Member Mod/Admin

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    Excellent - thanks for clarifying that guys!

    In that case it looks like the muzzle loading pistol will be going in favour of a mod for the centrefire :)

    The big question now being whether I TVP can turn around the variation in the time span before I need to buy more ammo..
     
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    I seem to think there's a time limit on getting a 1-4-1 variation from chopping one in to applying for another one but i'm most likely wrong.
    Just what someone told me.:shrug:
     
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    I have heard of this “you have had this slot for xxx months or whatever, and you haven’t filled it so you clearly haven’t a need for it” argument a couple of times recently but I’m not sure they could make it stick if it was challenged. I had vacant slots for moderators for years but it has never been challenged.......:thumb:
     
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    2506sendero Legend in his own mind & living on the edge.

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    Funnily enough i was looking at my FAC just the other day and there is an unused slot for a .22 sound mod that has been there for over 3 years - and your right, there is nothing in the actual legislation about how long a slot is valid.
     
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