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Question Lightweight Silencer?

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by EJTrading, Jan 23, 2019.

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  1. EJTrading

    EJTrading Newbie

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    A friend and I are looking into developing 3D printed super lightweight air rifle and pistol silencers. We intend to use hardened materials to create a rugged unit with a new baffle design ensuring maximum sound moderation. We'd look to retail these at £30-£40. Would this appeal to the Air Rifle community? The test units have been shockingly effective and really are an exciting development.
     
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    Mr wolf Sad times

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    98CFD20F-63DF-475C-8228-AE8F0AA8F38B.jpeg (Hi)
     
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  3. Wofty

    Wofty Cleverer than the average bear Booboo!

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    Effectively = good.
    Bear in mind hunters may prefer matt/dull finish whereas range/plinkers might like more bling.
    Look at Hugget. Not the best moderator but looks good and extremely popular.
    Weihrauch mod looks kak but popular for its moderation properties.
    If it's 3d printed make sure it doesn't look like a piece of lego.
     
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    Brian Richardson Old gezzer...

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    Hi and welcome to the forum. Tell us a bit about yourself!!!...
     
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    ^^Both of these.
     
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    Wayforward Engaging Member

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    Got a cotton pickers 3d printed silencer (see freeads) on my bantam. Does the job for less than £15.
     
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    Post up some photos and sound test results and maybe send a couple to established members for testing and if they are as good as you say I think you’ll sell some at that price. Especially if they are calibre specific and have different fittings for Theoben/FX/Air Arms and 1/2” unf
     
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    I would be interested to see what the new baffle design is? I have made almost every shape baffle there is, concave, convex, k baffles reactive baffles, vented baffle and even baffled fitted with one way valve but in truth, nothing beats a simple plain washer, a cage and felt wadding.

    Best of luck.

    Bb
     
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    Wofty Cleverer than the average bear Booboo!

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    I volunteer to test.
    Being a range/queen/girly plinker I only like da bling.
    I'd like a dragon eating a unicorn in gold leaf relieved over fake blued unobtanium please.

    Oh and I wont be shooting till April when it's warmer. The cold plays havoc with the pleats in my argyle breeches:D
     
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    darklord Can’t beat a tx200 at 30m

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    One of the issues you’ll get with 3D printed stuff is the fitup and rigidity

    Threaded parts will easily strip when onocked putting it out of alignment

    If you can over come that little hurdle I think you have a winning idea
     
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    Marky-Boy Just The One + 1

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    You joined This forum for the wrong reasons
     
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    a lot of 3d printed moderators i have seen have failed, there is a lot of pressure coming out of the end of a barrel on thin plastic, if they were viable the main moderator makers would me making them from plastic
     
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    littleJon365 Democracy unless they disagree

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    1st post and straight into trying to make a profit of us :thumb:
     
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    wouldnt bother mate. plastic threads not going to have a long lifespan+ printed silencers look pants.+ you can get a proper one for 30-40 quid.:)
     
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    Yeah I use one of these on my crosman 2250, it cost me like 12 quid posted. Really works a treat, not as quiet as a hw but not far off.
     
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    IMO not up to the job on a full length rifle used in the field ... threads not strong enough to take knocks from climbing over fences and tree branches etc
     
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    Are you a Registered Firearms Dealer (RFD)?

    You might want to check the law.

    As I understand it, under the VCRA 2004:

    - It is fine, as a private individual, to sell privately a silencer that you own, including to people you have only met on the internet (e.g. via posting a sales thread here).

    - It is fine to make silencers for your own use.

    - It is fine, having made them for your own use, to sell them privately when you no longer want them.

    - It is fine to make a silencer and give to someone as a gift.

    - It is probably (probably) fine to make a silencer for a mate and have them compensate you for your time and materials.

    - It is illegal, unless you hold an RFD certificate, to make and sell silencers “by way of trade or business”. You appear to be proposing to do that.

    I know, there are other people on the internet who appear to do that, and the authorities don’t seem to care (why would they, when the buyers could just as easily legally buy a used silencer in a private sale?), and I’m unaware of any attempted prosecutions, but that appears to me to be the legal position.

    Only a court can ultimately decide whether you are a hobbyist selling off items you no longer want, or acting as a business.

    But suggesting you plan to offer new production items while calling yourself “EJTrading”, well that sounds to me like a business, as opposed to, for example, a collector who is thinning out their collection because it’s got too big and some of it is no longer interesting.

    If you want to start a business, even in your spare time, as a manufacturer and seller of airgun silencers, if you aren’t an RFD, you are at legal risk.

    Not a lawyer, this is not legal advice, but pretty sure a lawyer would say something similar.
     
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    Agree, I only use them on pistols which are not used for hammering in fenceposts
     
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    I had a cotton pickers(Baldock), twisty mod on Hatsan AT44. about 18 months ago,
    I think it cost me £16 and regardless of the low price,
    it was very effective.!
    I've been looking to get another from him, but can't find one of his add's.
    Is he still making them ?
    Appreciate any info'.

    (I remember suggesting a metal thread liner, to him at the time)

    Pedro.:up:
     
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