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Leaking Roofs and

Discussion in 'General chit chat' started by Tan, Jan 30, 2014.

  1. Tan

    Tan Donator

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    Hello.

    After two pretty serious leaks at home due to last Saturday's insane weather, it was great to get some good news last night -- I passed probation at the club and could now put an application in for an FAC, which they would support.

    I haven't decided on what I want yet, but the club only allows .22 rimfire anyway, so I'm pretty limited unless I join another club as well. Would love a shotgun, for clay pigeon shooting.

    T.
     
  2. Egg

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    You needing a roofer Tan?

    [edit] - shotgun cert's relatively easy to get compared to FAC.
     
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  3. Tan

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    I have a neighbour who does roofing, so managed to get it sorted for me. Now have to paint the room again, but currently treating the walls with fungicidal wash, before prepping them to paint. Major ball ache!

    I don't hunt or do any kind of pest control, so the rifle(s) and shotgun(s) will be for club use only (indoor and out).

    T.
     
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    Apply for coterminous certificates - sixty quid for the two. SGC is a doddle to get - you don't need to have land to shoot it over, be a member of a club etc.
     
  5. Tan

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    Yes, I'll do that. I'm gonna download an application in the morning and try and get it filled out over the weekend.

    T.
     
  6. Stevie Darling

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    Why is that egg?
     
  7. Elk hunter

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    The biggest difference between an FAC & SGS is the FAC you have to either have land to shoot over, be a member of a club or paying to stalk deer.
    Where as a SGS you can own with out any of theses.

    Andrew
     
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    With SGC you still need to have a good reason to own a shotgun.

    Find your local pay per round clay shooting ground. (no membership needed) and say you will shoot there. Go for a look round or have a look over their website so you know a bit about the shooting ground for your interview.
    Do not make up a reason thinking they won't check because they do sometimes check now. Where years ago it was unheard of for them to check up on your reason.
    Good luck with the applications.
    Cheers Andy
     
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    The criteria is exactly the same ( convictions, mental health, security, acquaintances, partners, domestics. etc etc etc.)
    Except:
    With SGC the police need to prove you don't have a valid reason to have a SGC.
    With FAC you need to prove you do have a valid reason to have FAC.

    Plus larger calibers of rifle for deer and long range fox will often require you to have experience with smaller calibers first or have DSC1 / relevant experience with the large caliber.
    Cheers Andy
     
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    Thanks for the advice and guidance, chaps. Much appreciated.

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    This does not apply in all counties!
     
  12. r10hunter

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    The feo's guidance as of December 2013 tells them.

    "11.11 It is important to note how the criteria differ from those in respect of applications under section 1 of the 1968 Act. No shotgun certificate shall be granted or renewed if the chief officer of police:
    a) has reason to believe that the applicant is prohibited by the Act from possessing a shotgun; or
    b) is satisfied that the applicant does not have a good reason for possessing, purchasing or acquiring one.
    11.12 Section 28(1B) of the 1968 Act, as substituted by section 3(1) of the 1988 Act, provides for sporting or competition purposes and shooting vermin to be regarded as good reasons for possessing a shotgun.

    Collecting, study and research May also be considered good reason as in the case of section 1 firearms.

    A chief officer should make further enquiries where it comes to their notice that there may be genuine doubts about the applicant’s reason for wishing to possess a shotgun."

    As you say some feo's and some county licensing managers will take the advice more literally than others.

    But to cover their bases just incase, every applicant should ensure they have a "good reason" that checks out.
    With clay shooting its so simple, just to say "I will shoot clays at my local pay per round clay ground who's address is xyz. Job done SGC in the post.

    Its not worth taking a risk saying x county or y feo never checks up.

    To many shooters have fallen foul of bad advice, where they have been told they don't need to give the feo a reason, it's a right to own a shotgun etc etc. When if they had just played the game it would have been so simple.
    Cheers Andy
     
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