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Latest project arrived today

Discussion in 'Vintage collectable airguns' started by Deejayuu, Oct 2, 2014.

  1. Deejayuu

    Deejayuu Donator

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    Well here it is. Ugly and for spares only to some eyes but a brilliant challenge to others.



    View attachment 104538 View attachment 104539 View attachment 104537

    .22 calibre. Serial No S11074. Rust, splits, dents, scoring, bits missing, won't cock. I'm in love already!

    So where to start? My plan is made but must wait 'till the Poppy harvest is over.
     
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    Hello, that looks an old timer, bit like me :D
     
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    Looking forward to see it develope
     
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    Now that's what I call a project - good luck and don't forget to show us the finished result
     
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    Looks like it should keep you busy for a couple of evenings at least :) Be a nice rifle when you get it done.
     
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    A lovely old MNk2 Service rifle :cool::cool:


    I have one (Think I bought from the sales in this forum!!) but the ball on tyne bolt has been snapped off :(

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    I keep meaning to make one on my lathe!!

    Have the drawing for the bolt in the Hillers guide to air rifles so it shouldn't be too difficult (y)



    John :up:
     
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    Very interesting looking project :)
     
  8. Deejayuu

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    It's dismantled and ready for the next stage but time is short at the mo' so I will just have to be patient. :(

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    Turns out that the cocking failure is a simple combination of broken spring and piston fouling the dodgy ABT rebuild.

    Johnbaz is the ball threaded onto the arm? It looks like it on this one
     
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    Not sure Deejay As it's snapped off on mine :/

    I have drawings in my Hillers book but can't find the book!! :rolleyes:

    John :)
     
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    John. Do you want dimensions/close ups. I could send you this one to copy 'cos I'm in no hurry.

    Managed to sneak a few minutes on the Mkll. Couldn't resist.

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    I don't yet get the small hole to right of the cocking slot. The groove allows the ABT pawl to reach the piston and the shallow indent locates the pawl return spring.
    The mystery hole was accurately plugged with a steel button which came away with the dodgy brazing.
    Maybe the missing ABT pawl pivot uses a spigot protrusion to accurately locate/support on the cylinder?? Anybody know?

    W&S have used brazing to secure other parts of the action so the original part may have been brazed.
     
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    May I ask what is that yellow fixing solder - is this the braze you mention . I have one airgun that has had parts reassembled using this and could not take blueing so stands out like s ore thumb . Mine too is misisng the Bolt !

    ps can anyone tell me how to get email alerts on this forum .
     
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    Hi DeeJay


    Many thanks for the offer but knowing the postal system it could get lost in transit- I'd feel terrible if it did:( I'm sure the wife will find my Hillers guide (she usually finds everything else that i've lost!!! ;) )


    I'm actually not going to attempt to make one until I get my new lathe set up as the one i'm using at the moment is around a hundred years old and has wear on the bed :eek:


    Cheers, John :)
     
  13. Deejayuu

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    haggis apologies if talking down but yes the yellow stuff is silicon-bronze filler metal used in brazing.
    Similar to soft soldering the "parent" metal to be joined is heated to melting point of "filler" metal which flows between the mating faces of the joint.
    Stronger than soldering and weaker than fusion welding but causes very little distortion or structural changes in the parent metal.
    Will not blue 'cos no iron. Files or sands off to bare metal as photo.

    P.S. is your rifle a Mkll Service?
     
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    Gotcha John. Think you've got problems? All my "machining" is hand and eye. Even if I had access to a lathe i think I'd make a replica bolt as a single piece.
    Doubt if you could tell it from detachable ball even if it is!!
    Tempted to have a look tomorrow. Watch this space.
     
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    hi julian looks like another fine ebley in the process,next time I would love to see another W you know the one I mean just keep the updates coming you never know I may even buy another ebley ,dave
     
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    Daveymole. I knew you'd see sense eventually.
     

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