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Lamping vs. Night Vision?

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by kjarva, May 11, 2015.

  1. kjarva

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    Hey folks,

    we've been out a few times now to our permission now and while we've had great fun and brought home plenty to eat, I've seen from on here and from various youtube videos that people seem to have a lot more success numbers wise when out at night. I think I probably have the capability to have a go at building a home made NV setup but was just wondering what other people do, since I have neither was just wondering what the consensus was.

    So do you prefer night vision or lamping? I'm trying to pick one or the other so we can go out and have a go but i'm unsure of the pro's and cons of both.
     
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    I think that lamping rabbits is best done with a 12 bore from the back of a landrover, just after harvest. It can work with an air rifle (and a red torch) and is probably best suited to something with a bit more range (such as .22lr) or places where there is plenty of cover to allow you to stalk within range. Night vision gives the shooter much more of an edge and is ideal for ambush type shooting as well as stalking.
    In my opinion it's a good idea to start lamping with a red torch first, you should have some success at first until the rabbits start to get wary of the light and it's then time to go onto nv. However even if you are shooting nv with infra red light you are still going to need some visible light at times even if it's just to pick up what you've shot. You can still use the red light for spotting eyeshine as well as you can sweep the light across a field once or twice without scaring everything and then move into a shooting position.
    Building your own nv add on is simple, if you look through the video mentioned above you'll also find another one which takes the build to the next stage. The best way to proceed is to build the easy one and after you've used it a few times you'll have a better idea of any changes you might like to incorporate in the Mark 2 version.
     
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    I'm actually mulling over if I want to buy the kit you have for sale atm in your thread Terry :) It would save me from my own technical incompetence and would also be within budget. It all depends on my funds this month.
     
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    You might get away with lamping the 1st couple of visits but the bunnies will wise up and even rats don't like it ,you won't regret buying nv
     
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    as said above hes dead right its a completely different ball game with n/v
     
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    Well looks like NV it is! Now I just need to decide what setup to get, I'm looking to either DIY, buy the one Terry has for sale, or maybe even save for a few months and get a nitesite viper unit. I can tell this hobby of mine is going to get expensive lol. Save on meat though :)
     
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    ive watched a nite sight viper in use and at £450 it is no better than a terry home build the only difference is the home build is not as neat and tidy as the shop built ones.so if your not a gun tart dont worry about it.i promise you that you will never shoot a bunny that shouts at you please dont shoot me your gun looks a bit untidy
     
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    Terry's build all the way... Don't be fooled by the price of the build (£170 ish) it is a great bit of kit.

    Held within the project box is a 2800mah battery and wiring from the camera and screen. On the side of the project box is a switch to turn the whole unit on and a charging point so I do not have to remove the battery every time it needs charging. The camera and screen were bought from Sure24 for £93.00 ish. I did try cheaper cameras and screens but to be honest its not worth it, they ended up in the bin (I was told this too and didn't listen, trust me and save some cash).The torch is a T20 Night Scout with a 850nw Oslon Black IR pill, I also have a red pill for the more reserved nights out... Hate to be "all the gear and no idea" with me mates..lol
    It works very well on the rats, and even spotted very clearly a fox at about 150 yards, so what would have cost me about £170.00 including torch (if I'd listened) its a very good bit of kit.
     
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    thats a nice job there bud well done tidied it up a fair bit compared to mine
     
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    Thank you.. I spent hours thinking about it, then hunting on eBay/Maplins and a like, then PCB circuit boards for a tidy wiring job etc... it can get additive, but happy now, until the next idea, but all the credit goes to Terry, without his ideas I would have spent X amount of money on a NS200 for what benefit I'm happy to say none.
     
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    i totaly agree with you
     
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    The nv units you can buy 'off the shelf' will cost at least double the home build cost and more often 3 to 4 times as much but the performance won't be any better and may well be inferior. Of course the appearance may not be as slick but it is quite possible to put some extra effort into the design and construction and end up with a very professional looking unit.
    I think it does help to start with something like the 'easy build' to get an idea of how things work and looking at projects that others have built can also give an insight into what's possible with a bit of time and effort. Of course the better your diy skills the easier it all becomes but there are plenty of people with no experience at all who have built extremely successful units and used them to good effect.
     
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    Well you've all given some great advice and I'm sold on Terry's NV build. I'm going to start assembling the parts over the next few weeks and get cracking. I don't care about neat and tidy vs. the shop bought ones, you should see the state of our bedroom lol
     
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    Just a reminder with the add on nv you will need a scope with adjustable parallax
     
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    Good point, that's absolutely essential.
     

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