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Lake Pike Fishing Rigs

Discussion in 'Fishing' started by Ashley.H, Aug 22, 2017.

  1. Ashley.H

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    Morning all,

    I want to have a go at catching some pike and a mate at work has got us some guest tickets to one of his club waters that has pike in. Never really fished for them before so was wondering if anyone knew of any rigs that can be used for dead baits or anyother rigs that will be good for catching pike out of a lake?

    Cheers,
    Ash
     
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    i used to just use a short trace about 12 inches with a fixed treble on the end and a sliding hook with the trace through the eye and a small piece of rubber tubing to hold it in place..to adjust for the size of the bait, i used it for wobbling with the baits head towards you, and head down if under a float... the same rig can also be used for livebaits with one point of the bottom treble in the mouth and the other in the root of the tail.

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  3. rich79

    rich79 Lovin the smell of cordite in the morning

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    I normally go pike fishing in late autumn onwards, in my experience if you want specimen size then fish deads, larger pike that have lost ambush speed turn to scavenging dead fish, if that doesn't work then "sink & draw" is basically the same rig but fished spinning style, wire traces are essential for any method though.
     
  4. Ashley.H

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    would a dead bait rig basically be the same as a carp running rig but with a long wire trace after the weight instead of a braided hooklength?
     
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    Essentially yes. You can even hair rig a deadbait using a single treble hook and trace - makes a carp angler feel right at home:)

    Frog
     
  6. rich79

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    If you're ledgering deads with a wire trace only a running lead will do, it's not fair on the fish to use a fixed lead incase the mainline goes, your strike sets the hook anyway not the "bolt rig" effect, I don't actually use a lead, I use a fox swinger & a flying backlead to show up if it takes & swims towards me.
     
  7. Ashley.H

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    Thanks for the input guys thats a great help :up:
     
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    Something that may help is that when carp fishing you might look for a plateau to fish on - when pike dead baiting you might do better on the drop off of such a feature.

    Frog
     
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    The only way I could persuade myself to fish for pike is...surface lures. Preferably popping/walk the dog type.. but that's my thang. ;)
     
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    I only fish for Pike in the winter too, but have caught them in warmer times regularly.

    I mainly fish for Carp (although not so much now), so getting to grips with barbed trebles on a wire trace can be 'interesting'.

    Be careful not to 'catch' yourself and be sure you know how to handle the Pike properly (I'm sure you do already). :)
     
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    I have been looking at articles on the angling times website and others about the proper unhooking procedures and what kit is essential for pike, I think getting the confidence to get my fingers under the gill plates to get their jaw open make take some getting used to, but with a fish on the bank and a hook in its gob it will be a case of safely getting on with it. I don't like the look of those jaw spreaders that you can buy they look a bit medieval.

    Ash
     
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    One of these will give you a little more confidence until you've mastered the technique:

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PREDATOR-...432633?hash=item238af90bb9:g:eUkAAOSwtYxZifZT

    You have to be careful though, you can easily hurt the fish if you're too heavy handed. You certainly mustn't handle the fish with the hand wearing the glove if you can help it.

    Once you've landed it, flip it on it's back on the mat and try and hold it down while you unhook it. You can kneel either side of the bigger ones, but best to have someone with you to help to start with.

    I make it sound terrifying - it really isn't; just be careful. :)

    Lastly, get some decent forceps - not the cheap s**t a lot of places will sell you.
     
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    Not under the gill plates - more under the chin - you will find a sort of fold there made for the job of getting your fingers in to lift the jaw open - fish on its back. Pike are pretty delicate things out of water so as said before be gentle!

    Frog
     
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    Will do


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    hello, i buy a job lot of wire traces from china 12 and 18 inch, take off the over large swizels and put some decent clip swivels on, a single large hook with pinched barb and use rubber bands to hold dead bait, a pack of pike floats from china, i do not use any weights as dead bait is enough, if bottom fishing i just use a float as a slider to keep line central, a pike will take a fish side ways and turn it round so it goes in head first, so when you get a run it will stop and do as described and then strike on second run, a side ways strike is best to catch. my son uses those rubber fishy things with spinning rod, we take off treble hooks and put a large single as per dead baiting. dont forget a large wet mat and leather gloves made very wet, pike gag with some small cork bung glued on spikes to not harm, and large long foreceps, always have some disenfectant cream and plasters, if you do get a cut on skin from a pikes teeth make sure you sort it ASAP as your cut will bleed a lot , please check out on google pike mouth saliva, oh i have been pike fishing over 50 years and never had any problem doing it this way
     
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    Can you point me in the direction of where I may find how to make traces with single hooks and attaching bait as I've only ever seen trebles used?

    What clip swivels do you use?

    Cheers,
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    hello, these traces ebay, 262005289116 23/30c cut off those cheap link swivels / replace with mustard rolling swivel diamond eye snap link medium size fit as per like hook. other end cut off swivel. buy some stainless sea hooks 4s with large eye pinch barb a little still leaving enoough to stop un hooking , thread trace loop though eye and pull back so wire is round eye, so you have some long pike dead bait traces, buy some small rubber bands, get frozen sea bait say a smelt, small mackeral, put hook through tail and then hook into head so bend sticks out, rubber bands around tail and hook eye to stop coming off casting, fix to line with float at a depth to suite cast out and wait, not forgetting some tea and sarnies, here on the river thames pike feed most early morning till 2 ish. good luck ps pm if more info needed . i stopped using treble hooks years ago, with a single hook it is better for un hooking and not damadge fish
     
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  18. the dog

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    Read some of the previous posts with lip firmly between my teeth, but also some with good advice.
    Trace needs to be 18" long for dead baiting on a running lead. Two treble hooks with the barb flattened on two hooks on each treble, the barbed hook is for mounting the bait. You need a good pair of stainless forceps, 12" long as a minimum. A decent sized padded unhooking mat and a 40" landing net as a minimum. You never know you may hook into a good fish so you need to be prepared.
    Once landed, small pike can be held in one hand behind the head if lightly hooked or with two fingers under the jaw and thumb on top jaw to aid hook removal with forceps. Large pike should be placed on their back on the mat. Straddle the pike between the knees and place hand in under the lower jaw, NOT near the gill rakers ( which are bright red). Lift the lower jaw towards you, the weight of the pike assists in opening the mouth. Remove hooks with forceps. You do not need a gag, nor should you use one (with or without corks). They are barbaric, cause unnecessary stress to the fish and can actually hinder you unhooking cleanly. If you pulled a gag out of your bag at a PAC (pike anglers club) match they would stone you to death.
    The best tips I would give you would be...
    Be confident when handling pike, but take care. For all the reputation concerning pike, they are probably the most delicate on the bank. They do not handle stress as well as some other species.
    If it's your first trip out for pike, go with someone who knows what they are doing. Watch and learn is always a better approach than asking what to do on a forum, especially in this case. :up: I've not looked but I expect there will be some videos online somewhere showing how to do it.
    I've fished for over 40 years and had pike to over 30lb and rarely use a glove. However, if you feel the need try to get hold of some blue laggers gloves which are cut proof but thin so you still retain your dexterity.
     
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    hello, can you put a link up for the blue laggers gloves, cheers
     
  20. the dog

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    I cannot find the exact glove online, but I know we used to get them from ARCO safety wear. I used to 'find' them at work.
    These are similar though.

    http://www.arco.co.uk/product?productcode=G112556&s=1

    If you have a look on their website for cut proof gloves you should find some suitably thin.
     

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