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Kral puncher breaker bulpup.

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by spcook, May 2, 2016.

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  1. cybernet69

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    There are more bad ones out there than good ones. The dodgy ones need a complete barrel replacement, otherwise you are just smacking your head against the wall. Ask TRON on here. A competent gunsmith looked at his bore with a scope and found missing rifling in parts, very harsh rifling in other parts and the crown was off centre. Won't matter what pellets you use, they ain't going to work properly.
     
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    Bt1, I had a rapid that wouldn't group even with a known barrel, turned out to be a the stock did not have enough clearance around the trigger cassette, that then pushed the trigger up impeding the movement of the hammer giving inconsistent power

    I don,t know what the internals of the Karl are but it might be worth looking at valve, hammer, hammer Spring, trigger and everything else that moves or has air passing through it. If you don,t get p1ssed off with it first, I am sure with your engineering skills you will get it sorted
     
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    This is the thing that's annoyed me about the problems with mine...I don't really like having to keep going back to the RFD and I'm sure they're getting a bit fed up of me but there's so much anti-tamper on the rifle that you really can't do anything meaningful on it yourself without removing it all and voiding the warranty (plus potentially damaging the gun as one in particular will be quite tricky to remove). The only thing you can do is remove the stock, adjust the trigger and polish the sears. You can't touch the hammer mechanism, valve or even get the barrel off! I know there's inconsistency in the hammer strike as you can hear it but there's not a thing I can do about it.
     
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    It's the RFD's responsibility to resolve the situation. They either give you a refund, offer you a replacement or send it back to the manufacture to get it fixed. If they give you any grief then you might want to point out to them that they have sold you something which is not as described and therefore liable. Simple's.
     
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    The RFD have been very good to be fair and have been happy to help, no criticism of them at all. Part of the problem I have is that I'm still not 100% sure the issue isn't with my technique or something. The reason being that the group sizes vary so wildly that you sort of think something is changing all the time which seems like shooter error. If the inaccuracy is all down to a bad barrel or whatever you'd expect it to be consistently inconsistent if you see what I mean:D Not that it's ever actually good but some of the groups are far better than others, using the same pellets.
     
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    Reminds me of when we changed over from the SLR to the SA80. Some of us that were perfectly good shots before, couldn't hit a garage door with the bullpup. :eek: They are very holdover sensitive, which takes awhile to master.
     
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    Yep, that's exactly it. I've had a lot of rifles and been shooting a good while but this is my first bullpup. I wouldn't say I was a great shot but neither am I a terrible one and I can get decent groups out of everything else I own. I have been going to great lengths to try to extract accuracy out of it and tried so many different ways of supporting it or holding it now. Absolute best results are now coming from very secure soft rests front and rear with the gun so well supported it seems hard to believe the flyers could come from anything I'm doing with the trigger! Even then, the groups are still around double what I get from just picking up my HW97k and casually shooting with my forehand rested on a bag and minimal concentration.
     
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    I must admit to being a little puzzled about these bullpups. I have had one on order for a while and am thinking of cancelling based upon what I have been reading. The price is cheap but who needs a rifle which cannot group well. Some say they are great and others report accuracy issues. Is it just the .177's that are reporting as poor accuracy or do the bad ones appear across the whole range of calibres? Thanks
     
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    It seems to be a coin toss as to if you get a good one or a bad one. Glad I paid the extra 50.00 and got a BSA Ultra SE.
     
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    There's a hell of a lot going for these rifles. Seem well made, very low price for a bullpup, much better cocking mechanism than the few other alternatives, mag cycles smoothly and never seems to jam, effective power adjuster, great shot count etc. etc. If you can get an accurate one it's an absolute steal so I guess the thing to do is make sure you can try whichever one you're buying first to make sure that a) it's accurate and b) you can extract the accuracy from it.
     
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    Thanks Ken, will give it a go and stick with the original spring. Did you drill out the transfer port in the valve to 2mm? I read elsewhere that the passage through the action is 3.5mm and the port in the valve is only 1mm. Hence my assumption.

    Thanks JX
     
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    biotaw:i have seen only 2 or 3 bad report like you
    so i think it s like all brand, you can have a lemon...but after that the quality is impressive if you look at the price..
    i have seen all parts and it seem very robust!!!
    mine should be arrive soon(royal si is out of stock so i am waiting my order
     
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    Let us know what the accuracy is like when you get it:up:
     
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    no problem it will done but i will have 5,5mm version and full power not uk version
     
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    I have no idea how this thread has got to 18 pages, the rifle has been about for years in different guises, Jkhan, Evanix, Webley sidewinder,
    Only difference is the poorly executed plastic trigger unit and scope rail and krals poorly made barrels
     
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    you speak about something you don t know like a troll
    first it s not a plastic trigger
    http://www.airgunnation.com/topic/kralav-puncher-aka-jkhan-noblesseevanix-rainstorm/

    like you can see all parts are very good
    secondo it s very well made like all people has said during their reviews
    only the rail is plastic on the bullup version...that all!

    40m accuracy

    http://www.airgunturk.com/index.php/Thread/26887-Kral-Puncher-100-metre-sise-12-12-40-metre-grupman/

    https://www.airrifle.co.za/threads/44584-Kral-Puncher-Breaker-or-SPA-P12-pcp?highlight=kral


    https://www.airrifle.co.za/threads/44576-Kral-Puncher-S-5-5mm?highlight=kral

    i can post you all about this rifle but you seem to know everything like plastic trigger
     
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    Turkish Rubbish Airguns.
     
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