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KPC E700 setup questions and handycam questions

Discussion in 'Night Vision Optics and Illumination' started by willos, Apr 9, 2014.

  1. willos

    willos Active Member

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    I've got the bunny bug. Night vision is the way as a big red lamp held by my mate and trying to pick them out is a bit of a chew on.
    I have a sony DVD camcorder and have ordered some filter shims to get it to fix to the scope.
    I need a IR illuminator for this whats the best budget illuminator for this setup.
    Also thinking of a KPC e700 diy kit if the camcorder doesn't work out.
    Whats the distance away from the scope or the approx. distance between the camera and scope lenses. Im assuming you use a 16mm lens on the KPC camera.
    Ive loads of carbon tubing for this job (windsurf masts if anyones interested)
    Also whats the lightest smallest monitor you can get or any recommendations as the Flee bay item numbers are out of date.
    Many thanks

    P.S Out tonight so R10 and AT44 all pumped up and ready for some jive bunny
     
  2. terry1001

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    Camcorders are a bit of a pain although some people do use them fairly successfully. You need to have the nightshot function to have any chance of using it in the dark. The awkward part is fitting it to the scope without fouling on the stock, some scopes have threaded eyepieces and the camcorder will have a threaded lens so you can probably cobble up a fitting using camera filter adapters from ebay.
    A good starting point for the distance between the scope and camcorder lens is 38/40mm, hopefully you can set the camcorder to manual focus so you can get it to focus on the reticle.
    You won't go wrong with an E700 camera and 16mm lens, you can get them with the lens and the ir filter already removed from Sure24, have a look at the nv pages on their website.
    Monitors are on ebay, search for car reversing monitor and take your pick although I would suggest that a slightly larger monitor with higher resolution (800x480) will show a better picture and will be more of a match for the camera, the weight won't be much different.
    For illumination have a look at my sales thread http://www.airgunforum.co.uk/forums/showthread.php/177909-Infra-red-and-visible-red-torches-for-sale
     
  3. r10hunter

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    As above don't waste your money getting the camcorder to work. Go straight for something that gives you range like the e700, ej230, watec 902h, and a good ir torch.
    Lots of people say but I only need to see 45 yards. But being able to see a lot further enables you to be sure of your backstop ( have the sheep or cows moved) and being able to scan many hundreds of yards in front of you saves a lot of stalking.

    One thing you will want to do is rig a sling that is reversible so that you can hang the rifle off of your shoulder and scan without taking the rifles weight with your arms. ( the one huge advantage of using a screen as opposed to a night vision device you need to put to your eye)
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    Cheers Andy
     
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  4. Dels510

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    Another vote for the e700
    View attachment 93939 View attachment 93940

    Here;s a couple of pics,the screen view is at 35yds and 9x mag.
    The seconds my camera mount,just a 40mm waste pipe fitting with the threads sanded off and painted black.The camera housing slides in perfectly with a couple of O rings around it's housing.
     
  5. willos

    willos Active Member

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    Thanks guys. Im going to explore the camcorder first then the other options.
    Will get in touch re the ir torch
     
  6. subzeer0

    subzeer0 Engaging Member

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    the e700 route is the way to go...for less bulk...battery on this is behind the monitor as well as on off switch...playing with putting a floplast 40mm plug now to house the e700

    View attachment 93972
     
  7. willos

    willos Active Member

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    Ive seen cctv test monitors 2.5 inch with recharge battery which is a good idea , but then again the camera and the ir still need power
    Ive played with a couple of nightvision sony camcorders and I think the strain on the front of it would be too much and would end up binning them so they are going on ebay and a nice little sure24 is coming my way.
    Any recommendations on a good lightweight small monitor
    Im going to get ir from terry1001 when ive sold everything to fund the beast. By the time its finished it wont get dark till 11pm
     

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