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Discussion in 'Firearms Certificate (FAC) Guns' started by talisman, Feb 26, 2018.

  1. talisman

    talisman Donator

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    I have put down 2 slots on the form. Simply because i intend to shoot prone and bench or possibly LSR. So i will definately check out the BSA. Have to wait and see what the FEO has to say. By the way i daresay the other rifle will be an Anschutz 54 , 1813 or similar.
     
  2. Air arms boy

    Air arms boy Wear sunscreen!

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    Hi talisman this is what I’d like to start also,I’m in frome so not to far for me to travel to join,do they have a on site shop? Food and drink ect?
    will you be gaining your fac just by being a member and shooting at this club or do you have land permission ect?
    what are there opening hrs and are you doing your probation period on weekends or week days..cheers
     
  3. darklord

    darklord Can’t beat a tx200 at 30m

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    Good man enjoy.

    Lucky to find a club to take probationers. As most wont now.

    Also get them to do your shooters competency cards
     
  4. rich79

    rich79 Lovin the smell of cordite in the morning

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    Aren't the NRA taking over that job (just to make a bit of £).
     
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    darklord Can’t beat a tx200 at 30m

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    No reason your club can’t do it. The NRA told me a couple months ago donthem through your club if they are an affiliate and save a lot of dosh.

    My clubs doing mine and it costs me nought
     
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    He is right, the NRA are changing the method of issuing cards, we had a discussion about it the other night at the club.
     
  7. talisman

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    Google chippenhamrpc.co.uk for information.
    Sorry ,this is a reply intended for "Air arms boy" lol.
     
  8. talisman

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    Had my police interview,went well. The police have been efficient and quick.
    Just waiting for the GP to reply now, slightly different story lol.
     
  9. john harris

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    Talisman. How do you KNOW the Police wrote to your Dr ? Did you have a disclosure that MAY have warranted that ? Is the Dr charging you to reply/how much ?
     
  10. talisman

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    The Firearms licensing law was revised in April 2016.
    New law requires the police to ask your GP if you can be issued an Fac.
    Should be no charge for this.
    If the GP raises a concern a report is required,there is a charge for this.
    I believe my GP charges £65.00 which includes vat.
    Prevously the FAC was issued and then the police contacted your GP.
    Problems arise when the GP refuses to cooperate for whatever reason.
    I believe they have 21 days to reply.
     
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    OK ta, but..
    Police will ALWAYS write to Dr whether or not you have disclosed 'anything'..... Yes?
    Dr has 21 days to reply. He decides he wants to rip you off for £65 but you ignore his request. Assume he still 'HAS' to reply to Police within 21 days whether you have paid or not …..?
    If Dr does not reply within 21 days, what attitude do Police take then ?
     
  12. talisman

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    Yes ...the police will always ask the GP if they consider you a risk for holding firearms.Basically a yes or no answer.
    If you dont pay up the GP will simply reply " unable to comment", or words to that effect.
    After 21 days it can reasonably be assumed that it is ok to issue an FAC as no concerns were raised.
     
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    thanks. So there is no point in paying the GP ? Either he would say "unable to comment", or would give details of any medical condition in the past, even though you haven't paid him.
    Absolutely no point in paying/being blackmailed then ?
     
  14. Wynne G Oldman

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    I'm a member of Bury Rifle Club. They only have a 25 yard range. The target is the same size through the open sights as a 50 or 100m target. It's pretty difficult to shoot a score of 100. I've only done it three times since I started, around five years ago. My average is around 95 ish. I thought that target shooting sounded pretty boring, before I tried it, but it can become addictive. It's the element of competition, and self improvement that I like. I shoot small bore one evening a week, and 10m air pistol another. Give it a go, I think you'd enjoy it.
     
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    The problem you describe is only on the MK III Martini International rifles, which is the only model with a fully floating barrel. This problem has been overstated, and there are plenty of good MK III's still around. I have a MK IV ISU, and it's lovely to shoot. Here http://rifleman.org.uk/BSA_Martini_International_Mks_IV_and_V.html is a good resource for information on BSA Martini Internationals. If you hover your mouse pointer over the bullet "Target Rifles" at the top of the page, there are links to the other MK's. They are still very cheap to buy over here. You can pick up a good one from around £100 ish, but they are starting to go up in price, as the bench rest crowd are discovering how good they are. You want to see what they fetch in the USA.
     
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  16. Wynne G Oldman

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    Being a member of a Home Office approved club is good reason to apply for a FAC. You do not need any other. You will have to remain a member of a club though, as they have to inform the Police if you leave.
     
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    John Harris. The police simply ask the GP if you should be allowed medically to own a firearm [thats if you dont decare a medical condition].
    If the answer is yes , he or she if fine ,there is no fee and no problem.
    If the answer is no, the police will request a full report which you will have to pay for.
    I can see all sides of the argument, new applicants,GP and of course the police.
    Personally i intend to play by the rules and keep my fingers crossed lol.
     
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    Agree with the MkIII observation,however the MkIV and MkV have inherent build problems of there own.
    The IV & V use an aluminium hangar which is screwed to the barrel. This in turn is screwed to the fore ends.The handstop is fixed to the underside of the hangar. Therefore apart from using disimilar metals with different strengths and weaknesses , the handstop/sling is exerting pressure on the barrel itself.
    At my level of shooting it would probably make little difference, but for a top level shot its probably a different matter.
    Maybe it had been overstated, i really wish i new lol.
     
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  19. Wynne G Oldman

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    I haven't owned my BSA for very long, and have only shot it a couple of evenings. So far, I can shoot much better with my Anschutz, but I've got that just right for me (front sight element size / 0.75 eagle eye etc.). Parts like the aforementioned front sight elements of differing sizes are getting difficult to find for the BSA, but I'm looking at modifying some Anschutz one's to suit. I'm going to have a play around with my BSA at the end of the summer league season, with the aim of shooting the winter season with it. Wish me luck!
     
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    Sorry but still unsure on this.... I have declared 'depression/short time' 15 yrs ago. I understood the Police wrote to your Dr ANYWAY ?? (Cant see I will be turned down for this), but IF Dr asks for £ and I ignore/don't pay, Dr may or may not reply to pOLICE WITHIN 21 DAYS. if HE DOES NOT REPLY, then Police have no reason to refuse ??
     

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