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Jeremy [Politics are banned - read the Forum Rules] what do you think?

Discussion in 'General chit chat' started by reaper6, Aug 23, 2015.

  1. Scott

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    I'm the type to stand by his mistakes and openly say I was wrong..
    And if that hapless plonker supports [Politics are banned - read the Forum Rules] Then Im admitting I was wrong!

    George Galloway is the only person alive who has ever made me ashamed to admit Im Scottish
     
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    hes not scottish, hes just a t**t
     
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    What an absolutely crushing damnation of 'New Labour' and Tony Bliar in particular. If Bliar 'reached out to middle classes and wanabees then he has changed what his party stands for and it is no longer Labour but has transformed into something else. But his vote still came from the many people who will vote labour for no other reason than it's called Labour even though it's Labour principles have long vanished. More cash for the NHS? conservatives have done that in spades, they dare not do anything less. Minimum wage? An ideal that puts huge numbers of people on additional benefits because it's not enough, but is claimed as a Labour victory. What utter BS.

    Being 'principled' is what increasingly looks like making [Politics are banned - read the Forum Rules] the next Labour leader and if he is I feel sure that he will carry the next general election. Bliar did it as a one man band with nothing more than rampant self serving greed, personality, and an acknowledged genius. If [Politics are banned - read the Forum Rules] can continue with his principles and apparent genuineness then he has every chance. Michael Foot was a genius of a politician but came across as a complete **** with t***s ideas aplenty. And as a leader he couldn't lead sheep. He had all the charisma of a used chamber pot. [Politics are banned - read the Forum Rules] is not Foot. He does give me inspiration for the life prayer though. "God preserve me from well meaning fools."
     
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    I bet Cameron thinks all his Xmas's and birthdays have come at once with [Politics are banned - read the Forum Rules] leading the polls.
     
  5. Patrick

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    I see on the front of one newspaper that Caroline Lucas(Green Party),that silly women who thinks we can save all our energy problems by putting up wind turbines, solar farms and making sure everybody's house is insulated is suggesting an alliance with labour if [Politics are banned - read the Forum Rules] becomes leader.That's an even worse case scenario than a Labour/SNP alliance.If that was to happen you can kiss goodbye to virtually any form of gun ownership and most forms of shooting sport if the Green party have any say in the matter according to the policy on gun ownership.
     
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    What I've hear about him, he's being hyped up by labour to get the votes back "we have a cunning plan:eek:", yes I also voted UKIP and they would have done a lot better than one MP, but for the election system in this country.
     
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    the election system in this country is just a joke , compare the figures of the snp and ukip but because of this so called democratic society/system we have the snp have got more mp's in parliment than ukip.......how does that work out then ? or am i just being stupidly thick as usual :confused:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election/2015/results
     
  8. Darren Petts

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    Not damnation but praise. Your idea of damnation is vastly different to mine. I was never a big Blair fan but I admired his ability to win, particularly being saddled with the rest of the Labour party. Many of them dragged him down mercilessly yet he still won three times. Previously only every other party of government had won consecutive elections. It's very true he tried to convert the Labour party into a more centrist one. He understood that remaining too far left would never lead to government. The Conservatives have only maintained the increase in spending on the NHS. Tony Blair increased it from 5.5% to 7.2% of GDP but don't let that interfere with your hatred of him. You damn the minimum wage as not enough. Why is a massive improvement on the pitiable wages paid before that not a good thing? Is someone who only delivers half of what you want worse than someone who delivers none? It certainly seems that way.

    If you mean Foot was a great thinker, maybe he was. I only ever knew him as an incompetent loser. He was an utterly abysmal leader. Whilst [Politics are banned - read the Forum Rules] is a much better speaker than Foot ever was he will fall flat as a leader because of his record on rebelling. You can't command respect when you've made a career out of withholding it. He has no chance of leading his MPs let alone a nation. Labour MPs do not share Labour activists choice of leader and that puts the party on an implosive course. Labour MPs are already lining up to oppose his leadership and I suspect he'll have a very small pool of MPs who are willing to serve in his shadow cabinet. Doubtless Burnham will serve as he'll hold any view he's told to
     
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    I too have come around to us needing proportional representation. I used to believe that the lack of coalitions was a good thing but I now see I was wrong. Denying UKIP a representative sized voice whilst giving an overly large one to the SNP is just undemocratic.
     
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    I've always said that if you peel the green wrapper off them you find a deep red centre. Greens = communists.
     
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    intresting logc, I quite like the wind turbines myself, find them fascinating. Loads on the mountains round here and would love to see if we could use wave power. No I am neither a green or a communist, but if you and others cant see the need to find allternatives to gas oil etc then sorry we are allways going to differ. There was an idea a few years back to build a barrage with a road on between Penarth in South Wales to the North Devon Coast, the turbines could provide power for most of South West and Wales, a dual carrageway on top would cut travel times from Wales to say Devon by some 2 hours, think of the economic benifits to transport, tourism and energy, and yet it still aint built- why not:confused: off course the power companies would loose to much cash would they not and there friends in govt would loose there " consultation" fees( bribes)
     
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    I see Mark Serwotka Leader of the PCS and a [Politics are banned - read the Forum Rules] supporter has had his vote declaried invalid:eek::confused:. This is democracey:confused:, yes MR Serwotka has criticised Labour previously but He is a party member and yet He isnt allowde to vote. Sounds like vote ./election fixing to me.:eek:
     
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    Labour only want people voting who vote for centre right. ie. Not Labour. :)
     
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    dosent look good dose it:confused:, you can have a vote but you can only vote for the ones we let you vote for, if thats labour democarecy you can keep it thanks:eek::down:
     
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    Perfectly put and saved me writing something other than what I have already posted on this subject. Thank you Tron
     
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    jeremy [Politics are banned - read the Forum Rules] is on record as supporting female only train carriges to protect women from dangerous men on trains.
    using the same logic , i look forward to the day he declares his support for male only motorways :D
     
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    Perhaps I wasn't clear with that point. I'm saying the green PARTY are all but communists. I did not mean that all those who support green issues are. I have great support for alternative energy but it needs to be viable and I have my doubts over wind due to it's unreliability. You always need a back-up for it. On the other hand a tidal barrage is 100% reliable and we should be exploiting that vastly more so. The Severn is the second best place on the planet for such a barrage due to the vast amount of sea movement yet we are doing diddly with it. As to why being so interested in green issues as to join the green PARTY makes you red I have no idea why this should be. It's just an observation I've seen for years that green policies coincide with hard red on so many issues.
     
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    right stuff it i've had enough of all this , im going for pm so vote for me and my second in command is fattman as we seem to agree on alot of things in common...what about it fattman you up for it or what mucker :D you know it makes sense we will change the world........no we won't we will TAKE OVER THE WORLD :violent4:
     
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