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Jammed Magazine in BSA Scorpion SE

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by bunraku, Apr 25, 2014.

  1. bunraku

    bunraku Member

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    Hi

    Just loaded a magazine in my Scorpion SE and the bolt won't push forward and now the magazine won't pull out. So I reckon a pellet has came slightly out the magazine in the breech and is now jamming the magazine.
    There is a plate on the opposite to the mag and I'm not sure if taking these off give me access to the magazine and even if it did what I could do. Any tips how to free the mag?

    Thanx
     
  2. Seamaster

    Seamaster Super Moderator Staff Member Mod/Admin

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    This isn't very technical mate but in my experience you need to pull the bolt back to it's fullest extent and 'waggle' the magazine while using sideways pressure. You might have to broggle a damaged pellet out of the breech but you'll get the mag out with a bit of perseverence.

    Chris
     
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    When mine jammed up a bit of pellet fell in the mechanism of the rifle and it had to go away for repair (sorry to be the bearer of bad news) ..... may be if you tried wiggling it all free with the rifle upside down so any pieces might fall out instead of in? ....may be that would help?
     
  4. cloverleaf

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    Sounds like a pellet stuck between breech and mag as you say.

    Firstly you may want to poke a rod down the barrel from the muzzle end while wiggling the mag, in an effort to get the pellet back into the mag (remembering at all times that the gun is effectively cocked and loaded). If that doesn't work, in the past I've had success with similar issues by removing the mag stop plate (2 csk screws), making sure the bolt is fully rearward and gently tapping the side of the mag that usually contacts the plate with a hammer and brass punch; encouraging the mag to come out in the way it was put in.

    This should shear the pellet in two and allow you to remove the mag - be gentle though and gauge the resistance when you Censored the mag; if it feels dead solid and unyielding it might be something more serious than a pellet jam and you don't want to damage owt :)
     
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    Hi Guys.

    Managed to get it out with Chris's advice. Damn scary and not the first time. Seems to be recurring. It must be the mag doesn't like the .22 Accupel's I'm using.
     
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    Glad you've got it sorted, any damage to mag or gun?
     
  7. bunraku

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    Don't believe so. But if this keeps happening I can see damage occurring.
     
  8. SteveO

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    Both my Ultra .177 and my r10 .22 jam the magazines with Accupells every time, I hate the bloody things! In fact the only pellet they are consistently smooth at loading are the JSB Exacts or AA Fields.
     
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    Mine did the same with superdomes! Could never tell if they were good in my barrel

    The mag or the breech just didn't like them!!
     
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    my sons r10 used to do it loads he took the mag apart and took a bit of tention of the spring and it happend one in a blue moon ,i read some where load the pellets from the oposit side works but cant vouch lol
     
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    i`ve had no probs with any but haven`t used accupells to be honest , RWS super-h-points i have to wiggle past the first mag rubber but shoot really well , the rats seem to like them ... not !!
     
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    What Steve0 said , but I did also find bismag/barracuda/weihrauch magnum flawless too . I ad also heard the old add a bit of tension to mag spring and load from the other side of mag but with the pellets mentioned above it just does not happen , hth , rich.
     
  13. Akita177

    Akita177 The Absolute State of Britian podcast

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    Ring BSA and get them to send you a new magazine.
    Though theres a chance that one will jam to.
     
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    This sort of problem will happen in .177 with "short" pellets like JSB Express. This can be solved by loading skirt first from the other side
     
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    Separate question. . I'm a newbie and basically cycled several times and of course put several pellets in the barrel. When this first happened I used a cleaning kit rod to get pellets out of the barrel and it was hard work. This wouldn't have damaged the barrel or it's rifling would it? Seems ok, but I'm a worrier. :(
     
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    Providing it wasn't a steel rod that had a rough end I highly doubt there will be any damage by using it, I've bought some fibre glass rod from eBay in 4mm and 5mm to clear the respective barrels when I get jams. I had a loop snap on a pull through recently and the rods saved a lot of headache pushing the cleaning wads back out.
     
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    secretagentmole Low down, dirty and quiet...

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    I have never fed my .22 Super 10 rifles anything other than Crosman Premier Ultra Magnums! never ever had a problem with reloading, sounds like your rubber O ring on the magazine needs replacing!
     
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    I was out ratting last night and I had a jam after reloading, I just thought of this thread and went oh dear! Or words to that effect! luckily I took the tension off the magazine and it came out and the pellet had a bent skirt.I must not of seated it properly in the dark,think I will get a double magazine as I knew it would happen one day.
     
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    What's your method for taking tension of the mag?
     
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    Oh nothing flash I was tugging a wiggling and it was stuck fast then I just put my thumb on the red knurled bit and eased it back to slack the tension off a bit and it pulled straight out.phew! I was back ratting :)
     

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