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Is this a good trade?

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by Robhalex, May 11, 2014.

  1. Robhalex

    Robhalex Engaging Member

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    I can't find out much info on this, but I've been offered a daystate harrier with a dive bottle for my aa s400 classic.

    Both about the same age - (quite old)

    Just wondering which is more suited for hunting rabbits?
     
  2. Clubshot

    Clubshot Clubshot

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    Sounds good - Daystate cost more to Start with -

    Nothing wrong with AA 400's - I have one in .22

    BOB/R
     
  3. vitalich

    vitalich Keyboard Hero

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    From your side is a daylight robbery!

    Catch that deal while it.s still exist, as you.re getting the cylinder as free bonus
     
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  4. ratman60

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    hello, as long as the daystate is in gwo and tank is still in test date and fits you and will do your type of shooting yes go for it.
     
  5. cloverleaf

    cloverleaf Super Moderator Staff Member Mod/Admin

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    A Daystate Harrier was my first PCP, an S410 was my fourth. I now have many 400 series guns, but no Harrier..

    On paper the Daystate is worth a similar amount to the S400 (perhaps a shade more) however it's nowhere near as good IMO. The striker is massive (around 130g compared to the S400's 45g item) and the stroke long (13mm v. 9mm, although they can be short-stroked) leading to a fair amount of disturbance on firing (plus it rang like a bell) and a long, unforgiving shot development time.

    The valve gear is similarly massive and the porting too large; favouring a low fill pressure (usually 160-170bar) and giving a pronounced muzzle energy curve / associated limited number of shots per charge.

    The (faux-two-stage) trigger on the Daystate is arguably less safe than / technically inferior to the (true-two-stage) unit on the AA, however if the AA unit is the earlier two-sear effort it won't feel as nice as that of the DS (but can be upgraded, though).

    Assuming the Daystate has the standard beech ambi stock, the ergonomics of the AA unit will be far nicer.

    The Air Arms will be easier to work on once you get down to the exhaust valve and general guts of the thing.

    The air cylinder is a bit of a moot point without knowing more about it - if it's low pressure / low capacity / sub-surface use / out of test it's literally worthless. If it's higher pressure / higher capacity / surface use / in test it could be worth up to £120 or so. Chances are it's the same age as the gun so worth b****r all, though..


    The DS isn't a bad gun (certainly more reliable and less fault-prone than their newer offerings) just somewhat crude and dated by current standards. I certainly wouldn't take one over an AA 400 series; especially since you're familiar with the AA while the DS is an unknown quantity ;)
     
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  6. jesim1

    jesim1 Kit bitch to the Stars

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    The value of the cylinder could be from £100+ to nil, which is more likely. You may be able to sell the gauge and whip if it's ok for around £30/40 possibly though?

    I would have thought the guns a similar value, but the Daystate probably a bit more, not much in it. If you are both happy with the trade then do it, neither is going to gain or lose to any significant effect, but I'd still say you got the better deal.

    James
     
  7. Robhalex

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    All abit pointless as after saying he would meet me,
    Texting me to say he could come to bristol today, he's messaged me saying I'm to far away and that he would rather sell his stuff individually now. Shame really, perhaps he read this thread and decided it was
    Worth more.
     

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