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Inside the Brocock Enigma

Discussion in 'Airgun Data Center' started by Ady B, Sep 7, 2014.

  1. Ady B

    Ady B Donator

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    Hi guys, not a comprehensive guide (unfortunately I haven't got time)I brought a service kit from Brocock for around £22, so here is a few pics of the fitting of it all. They may be of use to someone as there realy isn't much info about on these at all. I also clean and re lubed everything up while I was at it.

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    When removing cocking mechanism, beware that there is a spring and ballbearing that will try and shoot out the top of it, so put your hand over it so it doesn't spring off.(pic of it below in situ)
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    Left to right of the above parts.
    .177 barrel seal,. 22 barrel seal, cylinder to action seal, next 2 seals for either end of cylinder, filling valve, cocking lever retaining spring(the one that I said be careful when removing as it has bearing on end), exhaust valve spring, exhaust valve.

    This is as far as I have got for now. I just need to replace the seals in the air tube... I'll put pics of this up when I do it... ;)
     
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  2. Ady B

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    Here's the pic of the air tube dismantled. A little tip..... Heat the ends of the cylinder up with a hair dryer or air heater before trying to unscrew them. They were very tight and there isn't much to clamp onto on the filling end. I used a vice with some hardwood in the jaws to protect the metal, then I got my mate to help me undo them by unscrewing them with our hands and using some grips around an old leather belt on the cylinder.

    Anyway, hope someone finds this useful.. All the best ;)

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    Final pic, barrel seal, which seats in a recess inside the barrel.
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  3. stanimal

    stanimal I used to be indecisive, but now I’m not so sure?!

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    Great stuff mate,got an enigma myself and like you i had to strip it without guidance as there's hardly any info at all on them maintenance wise,and you're right about that little ball flying off,mine did and it took me about 30 mins to find it :mad: did you put anything around the brass part of the barrel when you put it back into the action? i used PTFE tape to try and seal it.

    Atb Stan.
     
  4. Ady B

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    Hi Stan, ha ha, guess I got lucky, I found my ballbearing in about 10 mins. It was on a 5' high bookshelf :eek:
    I don't seem to have a problem with air leaking from the brass part of the barrel on mine. Did the p t f e tape work? It's not leaking around the barrel seal is it?

    How do you get on with your Enigma? I love mine, deadly accurate. What caliber is yours, mines .22 and loves AA field ;)

    Atb... Ady
     
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  5. stanimal

    stanimal I used to be indecisive, but now I’m not so sure?!

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    I thought mine was lost forever and i was going to have to get a replacement,trying to source enigma spares is like trying to get blood from a stone :(
    Before i put on the PTFE tape it was only losing a tiny bit of air when i fired it,from where the barrel goes into the block,i think its a really stupid design not having a seal between the transfer port and barrel.
    Aside from that little problem i absolutely love it :D mine's also .22 and seems to like accupels.
    I've just ordered an air gauge for it from best fittings as its one of the first models with the fitting for one just in front of the trigger guard.

    Atb. Stan.
     
  6. Ady B

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    As long as it's not down on power and it is constantly accurate, I wouldn't worry too much mate...my S410 is the same, no seal and it's fine too...Yea parts are few and far between. I guess you can buy them from Brocock (or whoever it is that has taken over the brand).that's where I got the service kit from. I know the magazines for them are extortionate. I asked about buying one and they wanted £50 :-o
    Mine is the grey one. I found a green one on ebay for 25, it didn't fit, was too thick to slot in.. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrr
    I think mine is one of the first ones with the synthetic stock and power adjustment screw.
    Anyway Stan, enjoy shooting her and all the best mate
     
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    Nice work - I've not seen inside one of these before.

    It's interesting to note the apparenty similarities between some components and those from Air Arms guns - notably the cylinder assy and exhaust valve..
     
  8. Ady B

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    Cheers Cloverleaf. Yes they are very similar indeed. It seems you have to have worked on one to see inside. I can't believe how little info there is on the Internet about them.

    Unfortunately my next project has even less info, next to nothing as far as I can see. I have just acquired a Harper classic wolf. Seems to be missing a couple of parts??
    Anyway, this will be a thread for another day, if I ever get a bit of spare time. Going to be a long winter project me thinks ;)
     

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