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info on a rifle please

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by Grumpyoldman, Mar 12, 2014.

  1. Grumpyoldman

    Grumpyoldman Very Active

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    Well Goy a chippy on site , nice fella been chatting about airguns and he knows his stuff from the old school days , Anyway he is after a Rapid but says OH iv got a HW Theoben , and very nice it is too :up: Shoulders beautifully perfect balance but it must have come about during my 20 year sabbatical from air gunning . would also like to know the value as i may buy it when he finds his Theoben pcp Cheers < Grumps
     

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  2. Egg

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    Looks like an early HW90 - I think Theoben & Weihrauch put both their names on the action in the early days of its release. Might have a bit of extra value because of that but otherwise it's an HW90 with 2 sets of parents.
     
  3. secretagentmole

    secretagentmole Low down, dirty and quiet...

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    Can confirm that is true, I too have a mark 1 HW90, paid just over £120 for it, but that was from auction!
     
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    'Well Goy'


    Oy vay!
     
  5. Grumpyoldman

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    Hey 2 sets of parents . according to what most people call grumps its got a mother and a father :rolleyes: i was pretty impressed with it relay like the opens sights still being on there :up:
     
  6. gasman

    gasman Up a bit,,,,,,,

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    yep, I too had one back in the day :cool:
     
  7. Egg

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    You going all bubeleh on us Barc?
     
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    It looks very tidy Grumps, almost like its hardly been used,

    I'd put it across a chrono first, before thinking of parting with any cash.
     
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    Well the Guy who owns it has hardly touched it he is a car guy . Proper one builds and restores for a hobby and investments . He got this it seems because as a young fella he couldnt afford a rapid . Like many of us who wish we where still waiting to turn 40 :rolleyes: Then got a driving license and forgot about airguns like many of us blah blah :rolleyes: none of the screws seem to have been touched and there is a valve asembly on the breech that explains the Theoben lump of a trigger guard /safety assembly around the Rekord trigger . it shoots like silk :up: i been surprised by the valuations :eek: even at auction price . i would have thought £250 would be more than fair , and im the one looking at buying it
     
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    The HW 90 isn't worth as much as the proper gas ram from theoben themselves.......I would offer him £150 and see how he reacts. Or save and get a proper Fenman with a short barrel....I did this with my taunus this morning, haven't picked it up for months. Straight away this 10 shot group at 30 yards, 6x scope. Not off a rest as such, just elbows on the wheelie bin, as usual. And to think I nearly succombed to parting with it for mere money! :D

    [​IMG]
     
  11. JD

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    There's no Rekord trigger unit in there Grumps, it's a totally different mech, this one was designed to suit the USA market safety wise.

    Don't be to quick to jump in at a high price, if it passes a chrono check, you could always ask what he wants for it first.

    Is it a .177 ?
     
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    Maybe he can sell me the stock Grumpy i hate the newer one!?. Did They not make 1with a dare i ask a Theoben barrel, someone said this before i just thought i would ask , while im here if he or you are chucking his fillhose . Ican catch :)
     
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    I have an original Theoben pump in its box here - with the original instructions in it too! I might just stick it up for sale as I have another one to use.

    Theoben usually used Anschutz barrels in the early days, they used some BSA barrels too.
     
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    Need to be setting an alarm on the day you do then something to pump the theoben up, the guy i got mine from said he thought the power was down but it shoots fine to me but not chronod yet so.....ill be looking to get the HW90 ram adaptor suppose best fittings for 1 of those eh. Just in case either of the 90 s goes ewwwwhhh! Along with that Evolution and a crossman Benjamin trail. Sods law deems it will probably be needed ! One of the 90 s is a wee bit harder to cock but they both shoot like motherfakers ! And ones about 1 ½ inch longer. Strange
     
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    Er Grumps, no Rekord trigger on the 90, it is an Elite trigger specific only to the 90 I believe!
     
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    I paid £245 for my HW90 from Protek in Bognor
     
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    This is my HW90 MK1 in .177
    my theobens 081.jpg my theobens 082.jpg my theobens 090.jpg
     
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    Safety idea down where it is, good idea, looks crappy,but works like a dream,for me wi a tad limited right hand,it gets my vote. Think it was all put together for differences with the gas ram, and possibly the Septics market too ? That reminds me need to find a hose/converter etc for mine ,just in case?.!
     
  19. Wild Bill

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    Was a cat sleeping behind your target? :eek::laff:
     
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    With a gas ram you cant use the Rekord trigger as this locks onto a rod attached on the center line of the piston. On a gas ram all this space is the gas ram so you have to lock onto the rim of the piston. The safety on the Rekord trigger is also in the area occupied by the gas ram so it also has to be moved below the ram. I have no complaints about the HW90 trigger and I find the safety easy to use once you get your head around it not being on the top back of the cylinder.
    My HW90 says Theoben on the barrel block.

    Protek has a Theoben on comission sale at nearly £600 so yes a HW90 is worth less than a Theoben but not a quarter of the price, plus you can still get spares for a HW90. I had to change the ram seals a few months back, easy job to do and not expensive. I bought a bike suspension pump off the bay for £20 and an adapter from a bike shop for £7. Not as easy to pump up as with the slim jim pump but it worked.
     

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