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Inactive BSSC

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by AlsoFishes, Jun 3, 2015.

  1. AlsoFishes

    AlsoFishes Well-Known Member

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    The BSSC sells itself as THE go-to umbrella organisation to defend the shooting sports, THE go-between for the Home Office and Shooters:

    This was the reply to a recent email by someone over on http://www.pimpmyairgun.com about what was happening with Semi-Automatic airguns and pistols:

    From: "David Penn" <djpbssc@btconnect.com>
    Date: XXXX
    Subject: RE: Feedback from bssc.org.uk
    To: XXXX

    Dear XXXX,

    Thank you for your enquiry.

    This matter has not been referred to the British Shooting Sports Council, so the Council has no stance on this issue.

    With best wishes.

    David Penn
    British Shooting Sports Council

    Note that David Penn is not only the Secretary of "your" BSSC but also a Director of GTA! Conflict of interests?
    Highly irregular that the BSSC is deaf and blind to this matter?! I thought it would act without "matters being referred to them" !
    Also weird that I have never heard the BSSC ever being mentioned, or seen appear, on any airgun forum I ever visited yet they seem to be the ones in constant contact with the Home Office, Police and other Nanny organisations over shooting law and shooting matters.
    Last edited: Jun 3, 2015
  2. stryder5

    stryder5 Donator

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    So "someone" has to refer it to them?

    Not really proactive are they?

    Conflicts abound!
  3. Patrick

    Patrick Donator

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    I sometimes wonder about these shooting organisations that are supposedly looking after and safeguarding our interests.I get the impression that they're just a bunch of men and possibly women that sit around in an office somewhere on a good salary doing very little until the **** hits the fan and then they're goaded into doing something,especially if their particular shooting sport is threatened.I hope I'm wrong.
    Last edited: Jun 3, 2015
  4. Cam.

    Cam. Registered

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    My email to Mr Penn:-

    Dear Mr Penn

    I attach .pdf file regarding the above-mentioned.

    I have been informed that you have made the following statement in a reply to a question to you: -

    "This matter has not been referred to the British Shooting Sports Council, so the Council has no stance on this issue".

    Given that you are also a director of the GTA and given that this were discussions with the Home Office and therefore important, I find it very hard to understand why the British Shooting Sports Council is not aware of said discussions, nor about the purpose of said discussions.

    My understanding is that BASC has made BSSC you aware of the discussions albeit after the event?

    Given that you now have a document from the GTA, perhaps you would like to comment on the matter and let me know what you intend to do about it.

    A number of us have made requests under the Freedom of Information Act 200 and therefore a clearer picture of exactly what has gone on, and with whom, should emerge.

    Yours sincerely

    Campbell Grant

    "The above mentioned": Recent GTA discussions with the Home Offce

    (pdf Attachment was that of: GTA UPDATE: Air Weapon Advice 7 May 2015

    EDIT : I am a tit, FOI should have read 2000 + poor editing, sorry folks!

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  5. Gollum

    Gollum Donator

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    Shades of FIFA perhaps?
  6. Peter Norris

    Peter Norris Posting Addict

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    And David Penn uses a BT e mail address. A 2p organisation ?
  7. katluke

    katluke Donator

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    I wonder who did know of this meeting and who didnt ? I hope the FOI requests turn something up so we know exactly who was there and what exactly was said .The people involved seemed to have tried to keep it very quiet,how wrong they were about that .
  8. Blackmax

    Blackmax Forum Rude Guy

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    It'll be interesting when the result of the FOI are released, if they fail to comply then report the matter to the ICO (Infornation Commissioners Office).

    I have feeling there's going to be a few people caught out from other forums when the results are received.

    For anyone wishing to request information from a public body the website is 'What Do They Know' it free to use and anyone can submit a request.

  9. SteveO

    SteveO Top Poster

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    Cam, edit your phone number from your post, not good in case of anti shooting data harvesting. ;)
  10. Cam.

    Cam. Registered

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    Hi Steve! :)

    I can't edit, but I don't care anyway! If some anti wants to phone me, bring it on. I hope that my reasoning will bring said anti into the sport!

    I have seen folk who have been dubious about air gun shooting to then have a smile on their face when they have managed to hit a bottle top or a 1/4" berry on a cocktail stick at 22 yards following 5 minutes of safety talk and explanation of the scope reticule.

    Last edited: Jun 4, 2015

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