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Importing firearms into the UK

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by sirok, Feb 29, 2008.

  1. sirok

    sirok Guest

    Hi,

    I'm considering buying a GSG-5 here but will be moving to London end of this year as I'd mentioned already, I don't want to resell and buy another once I have my FAC. I was hoping to leave it on the continent til my FAC is approved (hopefully) and then bring it into the U.K.

    I'm also asking as my airwolf and a few others are above the 12ft/lbs limit

    I was considering phoning a firearms officer in London but would like your input

    Thanks for any help/advice/suggestions you can provide.

    Cheers,
    Paul
     
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    I think importing privately is still illegal regardless of whether you have a FAC or not ... only registered firearms dealers can import guns, it all ties in with the 'face to face' thing.

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure that's how it is now ... it's unfortunate.
     
  3. sirok

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    thats incredibly disheartening, so basically I would have to sell everything I own and air rifles wise anything that is above 12 ft/lbs and then rebuy it in the UK at retail prices once again.....thats complete insanity

    only workaround is I get a RFD over here and one there is transport my guns between them and pay them for the round trip...

    depressed:(
     
  4. a1gunner

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    british gun law:rolleyes:
     
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    Don't be sad, I could be wrong - it's been a while since I read through the VCR act.

    Even if guns can only be imported by registered dealers, I'm sure there's a way around it.

    With a FAC maybe things are different - can anyone else help here - members?

    We'll think of something ... there's always a way :)
     
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    What? You're in Britain, comments like that just make me keep thinking you're an American damn it :eek:
     
  7. a1gunner

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    I'M WELSH

    drum it into your skull

    heres a welsh phrase to remember me by

    Twll tun pob sais
    (please dont try to translate it)
     
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    Shhh people are sleeping :rolleyes:
     
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    sorry. dont drum it in to your skull just yet the hollow sound might wake people up;)
     
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    Haha nice one.

     
  11. sirok

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    Decided to get one anyways next weekend as well as a .22lr Kimber 1911...least I'll get to use a pistol an can resell before moving.

    now if I'd had already my license for over a year I could be buying a .45 Kimber 1911 and an MP5/G3/AR-15/Sig 551/Draganov...the fun stuff:D
     
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    You can apply for a european firearms pass.
    They use them up here in sweden when they go hunting in denmark, finland,norway and germany.
    It allows transport over borders of fire arms. As far as a pistol go's, youve got bob hope of getting that to the UK.:mad:
    Look into that pass though. Euro law states if you have a license for a firearm in one euro country, you can have the equivalent license in the country you move to.:D

    Just had a thought though. the UK might not go with the pass as they are not a member in the shengan (not spelt right i know)agreement.
     
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    To bring the guns to the UK you'll have to first apply for an FAC and therefore prove you have a need in the UK for the guns you have. This is not easy, nor is it any help having an equivalent FAC in any other country, EU or not. If you get the FAC granted for the guns you have, then you'll have to have the right paperwork to get them into the country, but other than that it shouldn't be a problem once the FAC is granted.
     
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    Sorry Buzz
    You seem to have forgot that it is indeed the EU that decide and EU rules take president over indervidual countrys laws.
    I would be able to exchange my Swedish FAC for a 30.06 hunting rifle in the UK, But i would still have to have land to shoot over, gun safe etc.
    If i met these requirements the police CANNOT refuse me my FAC. On the plus side you could come to Sweden with your FAC and be allowed to Buy a rifle and hunt without taking the hunters exam that i need to take.
    Importing a rifle for your own use is no more paperwork than exporting/importing a car!.

    Times a changing, Big brother europe is in control no matter what gorden brown says!.
     
  15. Buzz

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    That's a load of cobblers. Try bringing in a hand gun, try bringing in cannabis(legal in some member states), try bringing in large amounts of tobacco products or alchohol.

    The EU rules state that as long as taxes are paid on purchases in the country of purchase and that the purchacer resides in a member state, there is freedom of movement between member states....but just try bringing any of the afore mentioned items into the UK...I dare you, but be prepared for an uncomfortable and very expensive short stay in the UK.

    I stated that anyone wanting to bring firearms permanently into the UK would HAVE to have a UK FAC BEFORE the firearms would be allowed in...that's a fact.

    I stated that in order to get a UK FAC a person would have to prove good reason for needing the firearm in question....fact.

    Without fulfilling those parameters along with suitable land over which to shoot, no one can get a UK FAC whether they have one already issued by another country or not....EU or not....FACT.

    Visitors to the UK can apply for an exemption on some firearms, but these are very limited timewise and must be for very specific reasons.<!-- / message -->
     
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    It's probably for the best, especially with all these immigrants coming in :(
     
  17. Buzz

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    Please don't get me going on that one!!!
     
  18. sirok

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    I'll resell the GSG-5 and the kimber before I move, lol, just thinking that I'm talking about selling them and I haven't even got them yet!:p

    I just want try a real semi-auto and pistol before I move. just pity I couldn't buy this MP5 here at my one of my local gunsmiths in his second-hand section...its the one I really want to try, GSG will have to do though.

    on the side index its under Arme à feu/Occasions/Fusils

    http://www.reloading-center.com/index.php

    [​IMG]
     
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    FX:I would be able to exchange my Swedish FAC for a 30.06 hunting rifle in the UK, But i would still have to have land to shoot over, gun safe etc.


    Buzz:Without fulfilling those parameters along with suitable land over which to shoot, no one can get a UK FAC whether they have one already issued by another country or not....EU or not....FACT.


    Buzz: Visitors to the UK can apply for an exemption on some firearms, but these are very limited timewise and must be for very specific reasons.

    FX:You can apply for a european firearms pass.
    They use them up here in sweden when they go hunting in denmark, finland,norway and germany.

    Buzz:That's a load of cobblers. Try bringing in a hand gun, try bringing in cannabis(legal in some member states), try bringing in large amounts of tobacco products or alchohol.

    FX:It allows transport over borders of fire arms. As far as a pistol go's, youve got bob hope of getting that to the UK.:mad:

    Buzz:The EU rules state that as long as taxes are paid on purchases in the country of purchase and that the purchacer resides in a member state, there is freedom of movement between member states....but just try bringing any of the afore mentioned items into the UK...I dare you, but be prepared for an uncomfortable and very expensive short stay in the UK.

    We are talking about IMPORTING Buzz, not SMUGGLING?!?.

    Just having a bad day buzz?:confused:


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  20. Buzz

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    No..not having a bad day..well no worse than usual, but when will you realise that the UK is a member of the EU when it's beneficial for OUR government and not when it's not. You're ready to accept that the UK has a ban on handguns, but the EU hasn't, so how the hell can you say the EU is in control, if they were then handguns would be legal throughout the EU and they're not.
    As I said, the EU rules on movement of goods from one member state to another is fine as long has tax has been paid in the state of purchase. If the EU was in control this would mean I could go to France or Germany or Spain and fill a van with cigarettes and booze and bring it back to the UK, the EU rules allow for this so it's NOT smuggling, it's freedom of movement. The point I make is "in the UK we can't do this", it's against our laws and the goods AND the van will be confiscated if found and the driver arrested. This happens, so how are the EU in control ??
     

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