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I'm Really Confused About Scopes Etc

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by altair, Aug 16, 2019 at 7:06 AM.

  1. altair

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    Need some advice from those in the know please?
    Bought a new 2250B, waiting on a steel breech, and have a 22 inch barrel. Not going to modify it power wise.

    I bought this for rat shooting, and the MAXIMUM distance I will be shooting it is around 15 metres, mostly less than that.
    Some evening shooting (still a bit light) and night shooting as well with a red torch/lamp.

    I'm really confused about scopes..I know it's only 10 metres or so, but a rats head is small, hence the scope.
    Should I go for a low "fixed power" say 2x something, or a 3-9x40? I do have a 3-9x40AO Nikko on my air rifle, but people are saying it won't work under 10 metres?

    I would try a holographic sight as that seems simple, but can't see that working at night?
    Or a red dot scope?
    Or a red laser?

    Tried the peephole sights on gun, that sort of "blocks" my vision in my opinion, covers a bigger area than a Rat if you get my drift?

    I know each has it's pros and cons..but I'm guessing the scope is going to be best for night shooting..then this "parallax" thing comes in which confuses me even more.

    It's on a farm, and a max of 15 metres. What would you guys use on a Ratcatcher? Bearing in mind this is a fun thing for me so not looking at spending a lot, I'm hoping a cheapish chinese scope will do the job.

    What have you guys used for these short ranges with success?

    Thanks all, appreciate your thoughts.
     
  2. rich79

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    First scope that springs to mind is the utg bugbuster, that goes down to something stupid like 5yds, but of course it depends on how much you want to spend.
     
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    binxkeys Engaging Member

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    I would have thought the 3-9 would be fine at 10m on the lower mags which is where you would spend most of your time.
     
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    Vortex Spitfire 3x is ideal (not cheap) parallax free 3x mag illuminated simple reticle and Uber reliable. It’s what I have on my SIG 522 for practical rifle.
     
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    robs5230 леший

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    Go for something simple scope wise 4x32 or similar. Good for the distance you need and out beyond that.
    Something like a Nikko mountmaster 4x32 AO is cheap enough.

    Plenty of 2-7x32 options out there too. Have a look at the Hawke Airmax 2-7x32 AO

    Just a word of warning, fitting a 22" barrel will affect power whether that is your intention or not.
    Please make sure you check power is legal after making any changes
     
  6. Jonkem

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    Most low mag airgun scopes will be fine at those ranges, 3-9 will be best price point because they are very very common. Just leave it set on 3x or where it's comfortable for your eye but will still focus at 10mt.
    You don't need AO in the situation you describe so check the basic Hawke fastmount scopes that can be had around £50 new or £30 ish used.

    I'd expect a very fine reticle would be best at that close range and IR would help in very low light. Some Discovery scopes have a very fine reticle, not all of them are IR, price is very good for that glass quality.

    44 or 50mm lens will help with capturing as much light as possible.

    Doubtful that you'd find a fixed mag scope that will be focussed that close for a price that's sensible money.
     
  7. rich79

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    This is true, I fitted the barrel off a 2260 Rabbitstopper to my 2250xl, it went to 12.2fpe, still over no matter what, required a bit of fettling to lower it.
     
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    sagalout All the kit still ....

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    I use a hawke 3-9x40AO at 7m in me shed and it is really good, I have it set to about 6x and the view is very clear and crisp.
     
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  10. altair

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    Thanks guys, power wise I'm in NZ, so no power restrictions.
    Have heard about the bugbuster scopes, not available here, so end up being quite expensive by the time they are purchased and shipped.
    Maybe I'll look at a 4x32, heaps of them here..scopes are something I struggle to understand "term wise" so the simpler the better.
    I ordered the longer barrel hoping to help accuracy more than anything. Mind you I don't mind if it's ore powerful, I just don't want to get into adjusting internals.
    Have been using a .22 at roughly 21fpe and a .25 at 34fpe so the 2250 is actually really nice to use, and I don't have the recoil the gas rams have.
    Thank you, appreciate the advice. New to the Ratcatcher but love it!
     
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    My Rimfire has a 14" barrel, it is far more accurate than me
     
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    Popgun, thank you, that vid made a bit more sense to me!
     
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    Yes, and it would be far more accurate than me..lol I just want the most humane kills I can, even though they are destructive Rats, I don't want to maim or cause unnecessary suffering. Thanks
     
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    hr does "go on a bit" but has some good informative video`s
     
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    Yes, he made sense, I'll watch it again in the morning when I'm more awake. sounds to me like a 2x scope would be good for my short distances, don't need some fancy thing
     
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    Trampilot Keyboard Hero

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    I think uttings are doing a deal on HAwke Panoramas 2-7x32. They are fixed px but if given your distances 2-4x will be fine. They offer wide field of view, good lenses and an illuminated reticle.
     
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    Ior valdada recon, that goes down to 8 yards. 4-28x50 awesome optics....




    .....£2000 :D


    Bb
     
  18. metalman

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    Longer doesn't always equate to accuracy, this from my 12" barrel,

    Screenshot 2018-11-19 at 17.10.57.png
     
  19. Jay Butts

    Jay Butts Quick, put it back before anybody notices!

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    Yeah, the Hawke would be spot on mate.

    Hawke Vantage 2-7x32AO Riflescope https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00WN2669C/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_Q5LvDb21F8C7D

    BTW, the ‘peep hole’ sights are called ‘open sights’ and do obscure your view. However, because you’re not having to look through the scope (and at the distances you’re shooting at) you could save some money and persevere with these. There are advantages of shooting with open sights such as Weight saving and faster target acquisition...

    Just a thought. Hope you get yourself sorted!
     
  20. 2506sendero

    2506sendero Legend in his own mind & living on the edge.

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    You just don't need a high power variable for an air rifle @15 mtrs or less - my first thought was for the good old Simmons Whitetail Classic 1.5 - 6 X 20 but they are now long discontinued - something along those lines would be perfect though - you just need choose wisely with regard to parallax.
     

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