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If I May......

Discussion in 'Shotguns (SGC)' started by PeeBee, Dec 4, 2020.

  1. PeeBee

    PeeBee Engaging Member

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    I've been thinking about applying for a shotgun license for a while. I know nothing of the legal aspects of the subject so will be grateful if you could answer a few questions.

    The reason for applying is I'd like to do some dray bashing on a woodland permission of mine.

    The perm is only small - around an acre or so - but is surrounded by another five acres or so of grassland (owned by the same person) which in turn borders open countryside.

    Would it be permissible to request a licence for such a small acreage? (I'd only be using it against squirrels)

    I've got my sights on a .410, would wanting a smaller bore shotgun in such a small area make it easier to obtain a license, or doesn't it matter?

    Thanks in advance for any replies.
     
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    mmamonster Pro Poster

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    You dont need land or permission to apply for shotgun license, tell them what you intend doing but cant say they will be bothered.
    Alot of people only have shotguns just for clay shooting
    Atb
    Mart
     
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    fatplumber Engaging Member

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    I just said I started on clays. Firearms officer thought it was a renew as my name came up. My last cert expired in 1974. :rolleyes:
     
  4. Storcky

    Storcky Keyboard Hero

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    As stated no land requirements (only the owners) and just say it’s for clay’s bashing and pest control.
     
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    Thanks for the replies.

    Just one thing.

    If I said it was for clays, wouldn't I have to join a club or something? Or is 'intent' a good enough reason?
     
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    ukglyn Pro Poster

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    No need to join a club, most clay grounds are pay & play.
     
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    Storcky Keyboard Hero

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    Now stop thinking about it and download the forms.
    As they say “You know it makes sense” :thumb:
     
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    Unlike applying for a F.A.C., plod have to have good reason to deny your S.G.C. application. Go for it, you'll not have a problem.
     
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  9. 2506sendero

    2506sendero Legend in his own mind & living on the edge.

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    This was the case for many years, but unfortunately the tide appears to have turned somewhat in this regard, and a lot of forces are now insisting that you are actually a member of a clay shooting club, and there have even been reports of forces hinting that potential SGC holders have lessons in safe gun handling, how true this is i don't know, but one thing that i do know for sure is that the net seems to have tightened more every time i renew.
     
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    When I applied for FAC, I also applied for SGC. On the visit, the firearms were discussed very briefly, but the shotgun was never mentioned. The certificate just arrived along with the firearms one.

    That was two years ago,..how time flies..
     
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    It always seems the "net" has a one way knot, just tightens, never loosens.:down:
     
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    Very true !!

    The FEOs do sometimes make a phone call to check reasons these days so never worth talking rubbish, although pay and play grounds are a perfectly valid reason to grant as said that’s going to depend on area and FEO if they suggest lessons.
    If membership of a club is cheap enough and you will do a bit of clay bashing it’s a bullet proof reason.

    If shooting on land have the person giving permissions phone number to hand it’s only a simple chatty phone call from the FEO to them.
    I have taken several calls from FEOs for lads shooting with us and it’s no ordeal at all.

    Don’t say clay shooting at xxx clay ground then go and buy a silenced .410 it will get noticed and you want a good relationship with your FEO.
    Your use is perfectly acceptable just tell the truth.
    Oh and feed the wood so you attract a pheasant or two :)

    The having permission is the easy part it’s messing around getting doctors to complete the paperwork that’s a pain.

    Good Luck you won’t need it it’s easy.
     
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    2506sendero Legend in his own mind & living on the edge.

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    Thanks for clearing that one up R10, i have never encountered any problems on renewal thankfully, but had just heard about the possible new SGC ''Regulations'' that seem to have evolved from the new shooters at my club, and from reading other shooting forums, but as we all know, what we read on the internet is not always accurate and reliable information.
     
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    rich79 No deep or funny comment here

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    Just apply for it, give reason & wait for the interview & the postman, they don't go into calibres & land inspection like an fac, you don't have to have calibre slots either, just buy what you want.
    As for. 410 the rounds are expensive for what they are, unless noise is an issue which it doesn't sound like it is then I'd go 20b.
     
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    Jester Completely Unbelievable New Taste Sensation

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    FEOs treat people as individuals, the only times I've heard of them suggesting a gun handling/safety lesson is when the shooter has little to no experience. And it's not a bad suggestion based on some of the habits I see at clay grounds!
     
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    My license went through very quickly, the FEO was a sound guy , I even had my safe fitted before he came to visit , as above they treat everyone as individuals ,
    I’d already had a few lessons, and was booked in for the cpsa shotgun skills course, this seemed to to go down well during our meeting
    Good luck
     
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    No FEO is going to insist you are a member of a clay ground. No way are you going to lay out at least £50 on the off chance that you do get a grant! When as been said most grounds are pay and play. He may question Dray bashing with a 410. You really need something with a bit more firepower. You dont actually with a SGC have to specify what gun you will get.
     
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  18. Tyler durdon

    Tyler durdon Big Poster

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    Yes very good point !
     
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    Why would you need more firepower than .410 for drey bashing squirrels.
    Many people use pump action silenced .410 for this don’t they it’s about the most popular gun for this use.

    The clay club membership can be a cheaper option in areas where they are going to want you to have lessons if you have no experience and you give pay and play as a reason.
     
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    But with a section 2 you don’t have to limit yourself, get your license and have what you want , ive got a 4/10 and a few 12s,.. semi auto included
     

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