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Idiot Owners With (mainly) Little Dogs!

Discussion in 'Get it off your chest' started by Byronic, Jun 10, 2021.

  1. wezil

    wezil Posting Addict

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    Reminds me of the old dog in my local, he'd ignore crisps and things if offered, but if he got hold of the wrapper,you weren't getting it of him. And the poor sod had epilepsy as well. Channel 5 are showing a show called dogs behaving very badly, about dog training. Well worth a watch, seeing all the owners get the training, because the dogs are not the problem.
     
  2. secretagentmole

    secretagentmole Low down, dirty and quiet...

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    Here's our twit now...

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    And here he is being a Radio Norfolk treasure on Treasure Quest last Sunday....

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    Anybody on here listen to that?
     
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  3. Byronic

    Byronic Good thing we are all different, eh?

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    Yes, bloody humans are the problem!

    Given half a chance most dogs will get on with other dogs tolerably well.

    The average dog is a nicer person than the average person!
     
  4. FPoole

    FPoole Keyboard Hero

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    Used to see a very wealthy woman at my wife's hair salon. She had a Chihuahua in her purse at all times. It was actually very docile and never made a sound. The dog wore a collar that was studded with what looked like diamonds. I wouldn't be at all surprised if they were real.
     
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  5. RedKen

    RedKen Me head's a shed.

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    I have a rescue Staffy. She was 3 when I got her, she's now 9. A better balanced dog you couldn't wish for. Never given me a moments grief in any way, shape, or form. When I first got her, I took her to the local park, where I kept her on a lead until I got to know her better. Whilst walking, we met a young lady with a retriever (gun trained) not on a lead. They got on really well and she talked me into letting mine off lead so they could have a good run around. On nearing the park gates on the way out, I put the dog on the lead. Coming into the park was a young woman with a Jack Russell off lead. You could sense there was going to be bother. The JRT went for my dog, who basically ignored it. The the owner of the JRT said "bloody staffies. Should be banned." My dog on lead behaving herself, her dog off lead and being a little t**t. Unbelievable!
     
  6. Paul M.

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    My special needs son is terrified of dogs, after an unfortunate incident when he was a toddler. We find there are 2 sorts of owners, those whose dog is not under control but think terrifying someone is ok because "he won't hurt you", and those, in fact the majority by far here, who see the problem and quietly keep their dog on a close leash without even saying anything, aside from hello, nice day etc as people do.
     
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  7. Lorenz

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    That is so often the case!
     
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    Anchutz Engaging Member

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    My daughter has a rescue staff, you'd never meet a more gentle well behaved dog.
    When we walk our dogs together people avoid the staff like the plague and come to my lab. Yet statistics tell us, your more likely to be bitten by a lab than any other breed. I think the reason for the stat is there's more labs than other breeds, and people have this idea they can just walk up and hug a lab, the dogs probably thinking feck off stinky human.
     
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  9. Byronic

    Byronic Good thing we are all different, eh?

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    Most dogs don't like being hugged - they experience it as dominating behaviour rather than as affection.
    Unless it's a family member etc often.

    Kids especially are more likely to just walk straight up to and hug a smaller dog, presumably because it looks less intimidating.

    I always ask kids to stop and check with their parents and the owner before approaching any dog.

    Most kids will understand if you say something like
    "You wouldn't want some random stranger coming up and hugging you in the park, would you?
    Well, dogs are the same."

    A few parents get arsey and think the kid should be allowed to do whatever it wants, of course.
    Sometimes quite aggressive about this

    I reply that my dogs are well trained.
    The next dog might not be, let's try to keep everyone safe and happy.
     
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    The problem seems to be owners who call their animals doggos, puppers or furbabies. They invariably have little toy dogs that are worse than useless and don't need legs as they are carried everywhere.
    :mad:
    And more :mad:
     
  11. secretagentmole

    secretagentmole Low down, dirty and quiet...

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    I was nearly blinded by a Labrador when I was 5. Boxing day, playing on the grass outside the old people's bungalows where my Grandmother lived in Sutton in the Isle. A Golden Labrador ran up barking, my father had told me not to run away from barking dogs. My sister was off like a rocket.

    I did not know we were playing where done demented old biddy used to leave food out for this dog. It bit me on the face and came within a sixteenth of an inch of blinding me, according to the RAF surgeon who sewed me back together at RAF Ely.

    The dog decided to have a go at the police officer who investigated the incident and was destroyed. The couple who owned it were neglecting it and the daft old cow thought she was being kind to it.

    Wasn't allowed to become afraid of dogs. Hell I even owned the world's best Labrador, but he was black, not blonde!

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  12. PolzeyLad

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    @secretagentmole my face bite was extremely close to me eye too. Gave my parents a proper fright.
    We call our lab the ginger pony. Our previous lab was a working stock black lab and she was a cracker too.

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  13. Byronic

    Byronic Good thing we are all different, eh?

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    ajohn Chewing Things Over

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    :facepalm: In defence of people who own barkers I do. 5th dog and 3rd shepherd and the only one that has. 3 now and as a young pup she didn't do it much but started slowly but surely. I keep working on it, praise etc when she does what I see as acceptable and discouragement when she doesn't. Time on her own usually.

    2 main things I have noticed. When at the vets for first jabs she saw a guy with a similar look and build as her breeder and hid behind me. 2nd is pedigree, fame in the area of defence and agility. She has a lot Czech in her. These can be more working dog like than others.

    In some ways her barking is her way of talking - time for my food etc and even time for you lot to go to bed as the film is over. Hello when some one comes into the room. The rest though - pass. Excitement is one and after a fashion that's ok really.

    So I have a fairly obedient noisy dog. Having typical shepherd behaviour with other dogs always a long training lead in parks. She broke her collar once when running to some but stopped and came back as soon as I called. ;) Wife had kitten.
     
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    Sorry I have to disagree. I own the best black labrador, Diesel.
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    Only kidding we all own the best one.:D
     
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    Mine barks when he wants to come in or if he thinks he is guarding the place from an intruder, if he wants to eat he kind of licks his lips. He barks if another dog barks at him or looks at him the wrong way...
    He grew up in the countryside where other dogs were rare and had a free run.
     
  17. Byronic

    Byronic Good thing we are all different, eh?

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    FWIW
    I find that three things have helped me a lot in training dogs
    1) to remember that a dog's attention span is often not much greater than a goldfish.
    Instant response is required for them to make a link between their behaviour and human reaction.
    2) Tone of voice more than volume.
    3) Don't be afraid to tell them off.
    Most dogs want to please their owners so I let them know clearly, in doggy terms, when I disapprove.
    Usually just a firm "No!"
    Sometimes followed up by making them sit and feel the disapproval.
    Even occasionally growling myself when I can see that they are thinking about something tempting or naughty.

    The first good dog trainer I knew was a little Glaswegian guy with a very gruff voice - even when he was happy he sounded as if he was trying to start a fight.
    But every dog listened to and obeyed him, even if ignoring their owners.
    Also, my father was a professional Opera singer so I grew up surrounded by conversations about volume, tone etc.

    One of my friends has a Lab, basically quite well behaved but knows she can get away with a lot because of her owner, a refined lady of similar age to me.
    Suki had pulled her 70 year old owner over a couple of times in the park - usually trying to steal food for the ducks etc.
    In response her owner does the
    "Oh Suki, I'm disappointed in you" tone of voice.
    No effect at all.

    For a while I took to holding Suki's lead near the duck pond and she soon gave up, walking nicely at heel for me.
    One time I answered my phone and she seized the opportunity, rushing off backwards, catching me off guard and pulling me over onto the ground.
    I dragged her back, sat her down and yelled angrily into het face at point blank range.
    (She has been very good with me ever since.)
    Her owner?
    Stood there looking disapproving and wanted to go to reassure the dog!

    It's not just small dogs, it's the soppy owners very often!
     
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    Shepherd's are wonderful working dogs and are renowned for being vocal. They actually try to talk/communicate with you.
    I often wonder who's the most intelligent, the dog understands us when we speak commands, the shepherd yowls at us and we say what do you want boy?
    I rest my case.
     
  19. ajohn

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    Ours has an interesting trait when she has to go into kennels. No problems feeding or cleaning her cage etc but making a fuss of her and talking to her is complete no no. That from people who are well used to handling all sorts. It seems Czecks can be obsessively loyal which means others may best stay clear. It does explain some of her behaviour.

    ;) Latest barking problem. Too much when she hears me getting up in the morning and when I get to her. Excitement. I always make a bit of a fuss with her and say Hello Berry. You wont believe this but at times she has tried to say hello back. Fix - no fuss till she quietens down. Seems to be working - a bit.

    I have a feeling that other dogs are more of a problem with bitches. Dogs play fight, ok if things are even. Problem when not. Other dog rolls onto back, paws in the air. Shepherds may well nip. They are way more likely to do that than bite. You can guess what other dog owners say.

    The other barking problem is people at the door and movement she can't see next door. Mixed results with both. Sometimes she quietens and some times she doesn't. When I come back in the room after lots of barking she will have probably have put herself in the naughty corner. Sort of alcove by the back door. Well away from everybody. ;) If not I send her there.
     
  20. FPoole

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    My old dog only barked if there was a real problem, except for UPS trucks. He had a hatred for the brown truck.
     
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