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I thought that silencers on air guns didn't affect zero , but in the case of my Ultra not true !

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by Alex.B, Aug 5, 2014.

  1. Alex.B

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    Is that long enough Norfolk ? :D

    Anyway , last night next doors brats were being anoying and loud so I thorght some pay back was in order so off came the hw mod for some bang bang time :D

    This was the 22 ultra , 5 shots at 30 yards all high and left to right
    Hw back on and further 5 shots . :eek:

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    That's quite a difference , any ideas ..?

    Pic is sideways for some reason ?
     
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    Any change in weight on your barrel, no matter how little, will change your POI
     
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    U have to rezero once silencers off for sure silencers change poi
     
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    Slight key hole shape to the poor group. Is it clipping pellets? that's a big difference considering the only change is the silencer
     
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    Can't be clipping,your saying the silencer improved accuracy?

    A POI change is not the same thing as a change in growing size.
     
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    Sorry the card was resting at about 40° against tree
     
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    Yes , the silencer on is better .
     
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    I understand now, the better group is with the silencer :) me/duffer. My Hogan Decimeater improves every rifle I have used it on, very slightly but noticeable.
     
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    I'm thinking the Weihrauchs don't like a bare muzzle,can you try an alternate silencer,air stripper or muzzle brake?
     
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    My ultra doesn't favor a bare muzzle, with all 6 silencers I have the poi as all different:)
     
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    They sound good though without!!!! There's no crack like an ultra!!!!
     
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    :D..
     
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    i have noticed even camo bandage affects accuracy on my rapid it makes a difference groups open up at 70 yards without it but with tape on sweet as a nut its the harmonics. atb gary
     
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    Doesnt it have something to do with the slowing of the air to silence slightly affecting the pellets trajectory, as in its not a bad thing, but you just need to rezero when you change from silencer to bare barrel? I could be wrong but thats what I have noticed in my days :)
     
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    Usually yes (happens to me,poi changes by an inch to the left with my Ultra and grouping size stays the same) but in this case POI is changed but so has grouping sized,massively :eek:
     
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    I thought that silencers on air guns didn't affect zero , but in the case of ...

    Ooo, we're into harmonics now! If you don't watch it, the super geeks and toxophilites will be on soon!
     
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    I'm intrigued now .. gonna do a test on the s200 and the scorp to see what happens , well that after I've cut the grass and walked the dog tomorrow . Will also try with the supplied muzzel break thing that came with the scorp.
     
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    I'm using that muzzle break as a light pull in the toilet
     
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    Well I am very new to air rifles so bear with me. I bought a SMK QB78 a few days ago and i have struggled to zero the scope that i bought for it. Anyway I decided to buy a cheap red dot finder and hey presto managed to zero it near enough for garden plinking. But worrying about the noise I have just bought a silencer and yes its much much quieter AND more importantly the accuracy is spot on now. So for me the silencer has made a big difference.
     
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    Now thats genius ! I knew they had some use :up:
     

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