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I ended up getting a bow

Discussion in 'Archery' started by WifeWontLetMeGetanAirgun, Jan 16, 2017.

  1. WifeWontLetMeGetanAirgun

    WifeWontLetMeGetanAirgun Engaging Member

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    After much arguing, discussion on here (in which pretty much all aspects of my character were questioned) and faffing about, it was decided that an airgun wasn't going to happen for at least a few years until my son is a bit older.

    So we got him a basic compound bow for Christmas - A Barnett Banshee. He's 8 years old and a strong lad but seriously struggles to pull it right back but he's rapidly getting there - no problem for me however and we were soon improving in our groups (I help him shoot) with our shots. What struck me was how powerful this little 25lbs bow is - it almost flings arrows through our 3" thick foam target; one "stray"arrow ended up in the field behind us (owned by a farmer we know, we have permission); not just slightly into the field but a good 40 metres into it (and our garden isn't small)! And an arrow in the fence needed digging out with a knife; this is with "safety" points which are fairly blunt.

    Anyway I did some investigation and decided to get a bow that fits me better - so I am awaiting a Hoyt Ignition with a sight, rest, 5 arrows, some string for a D-loop and a wrist release. It's amusing that this can actually fell fairly sizeable game whereas a .22 is out of it's depth beyond a squirrel, rabbit or medium sized bird but for some reason it's okay!! So something to get into - I'll be getting certified ASAP so I can shoot at my local club and also learn alongside my son as he grows (as it happens the Hoyt will be ideal for him when he outgrows the Barnett).

    So a slightly odd route to a new sport but I sort of got there in the end - no good for rabbiting or similar as it's totally illegal but I'll enjoy target shooting and suspect I'll head down the field/3D route.
     
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    Enjoy your bow, just remember it is illegal to hunt with a bow in the uk though.
     
  3. Wayne Dunstan

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    Used to love my Archery, had a hoyt pro38 fantastic bow used to shoot out to 100 yards at club, had to give it up because my previous job pretty much destroyed my elbows why I got back into airguns, have fun and enjoy your new sport.
     
  4. WifeWontLetMeGetanAirgun

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    Yep - hence mentioning it. No hunting, just target shooting.
     
  5. Alex.B

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    Is it one with rubber suckers on the arrows? Or did she allow you to have pointy bits ? :D
     
  6. WifeWontLetMeGetanAirgun

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    :D

    This is the weird thing; even my sons now has fairly sharp arrows: it would kill someone if it hit them in the right place.
    mons was delivered earlier and it's an absolute beast; the power is incredible. This would do considerably more damage than a sub 12lbs-ft .22 air rifle yet it's allowed in this household.
    I'm currently pretty useless but getting coaching ASAP. And the arrows are very pointy indeed. Most go straight through our 3" thick foam target and some have almost gone through the large backing barrier I have set up (an enormous but very thick cardboard box that our T6 VW camper bike rack was delivered in.

    Its going to be fun; actually it already is!
     
  7. Snowbeast

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    awesome! What poundage are you shooting at? I have a PSE Vendetta set at 65# and at 25m it goes 6-12inches into my target.
    We are allowed to hunt in South Africa.
    I respect the laws in your country so I won't talk much about hunting with a bow, but will mention an arrow will pass through a Kudu.

    My PSE dream Season would shoot a 500gr arrow at 280fps which is 87fpe.

    Enjoy the time shooting with your child!
     
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    Sorry ive just re read your post, i read it wrong the first time, where you mentioned that it could kill fairly big game. I now see you were comparing it power wise to an air rifle.

    Ive been tempted in the past to get a bow, but SO far have resited the temptation.
     
  9. WifeWontLetMeGetanAirgun

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    This may sound dumb (many dumb comments will be made by yours truly until I get the hang of things) but I'd asked it to be set to 28"draw length and 50lbs weight. However I've noticed the draw length bolts are on the 25 mark - the "factory" figure is 25" and 70lbs. It was harder than expected to pull back (probably sounds a bit sad but I am pretty strong after a lifetime of weights, martial arts, etc) so I'm wondering if it's on the factory setting full draw weight? I've emailed them and asked.

    I'm getting coaching from the local archery club ASAP - looks like I need it. My first comedy error was installing the arrow rest on the wrong side (front rather than back) side of the bow....

    The blurb tells me it shoots at 300fps.
     
  10. Snowbeast

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    Did the coach set it for you? The idea in Archery is to have the bow set up exactly to your body size. I measure out as a 28" draw length, but I have a wrecked shoulder from a huge mountain bike fall so I shoot at 27.5". It's the same principle as shooting a springer. Every shot will be shot from the same position.
    Your coach should set you up in your first lesson and then focus on form from there. If you are still unhappy with the Draw Length I will quickly research how your cams work and let you know how to adjust them (each bow is marked slightly different.)

    don't feel bad for not pulling 70lbs off the bat, you use completely different muscles to pull a bow. It's all in the shoulders.
    I started at 55lbs.
    I personally shoot 60lbs in the off season as I can shoot more targets for longer and then work my way up to 65 or 70lbs in hunting season. when hunting it's just a couple shots to sight in on the day and one at your quarry.

    If the blurb says 300fps its usually measured at 70lbs and 30" Draw length. I cant remember what the arrow weight used to measure is.

    Once you are happy with your setup (Draw Length and Poundage) then get arrows specific to that.
    I'm racing off to an appointment in the village next door, but feel free to pm me your email addy and I'll send you some literature.
     
  11. WifeWontLetMeGetanAirgun

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    Wow thanks snow! I measured my draw length on a couple of ways and averaged out to 28.4" so set it to 28" last night which actually cranks the draw weight up slightly but it's still manageable.
    Waiting to hear back from a potential coach; I'll also need (I think) to install a peep sight which looks like a job for someone with some experience and add a d-loop; waiting for the string to arrive! Quite a few extras needed!
     
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    Glad to see you managed to treat yourself, although not an airgun yet, but some archery seems to be a good alternative for you both. Hope you enjoy it :up:
     
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    I'd get someone to do the D loop for you as well. You don't want that coming loose at full draw!
    Also Max competition peak draw weight for compound is 60lbs.

    Simon
     
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    Buy a air rifle, tie a bit on string on it and tell the wife it a bow:D, enjoy your bow :up:
     
  15. WifeWontLetMeGetanAirgun

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    Fairly sure I'm a fair way off competing!! But good to know; easy to wind it down to 60.
    As a Coastguard, I'm fairly careful with knots (wrong/badly tied knot = death) but I will get it checked over.

    Here it is;

    View attachment 151744

    The peep sight arrived today just in time for two hours coaching tomorrow.
     
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    Now that's what I call a bow:up:
     
  17. WifeWontLetMeGetanAirgun

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    First coaching session yesterday; absolutely loved it! Fitted the peep sight (very fiddly), was given a large shopping list of things I need (more arrows, quiver, bow stand, a scope eventually, bow case and more!) then shot a load of arrows. Only close but was gob smacked at the accuracy even in the hands of an idiot like me.

    More coaching then I'll join the club and have "free" access to the range, set in a lovely country estate nearby.
    Looks like I'll need a bigger bow at some stage; mine is quite small and the camouflage (not my choice!) might not be allowed in some competitions but I'm a way off that yet.

    Got a much better target boss for home too; multi layered foam that easily stops the arrows.
     
  18. WifeWontLetMeGetanAirgun

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    Accuracy improving now I've "zeroed" the sight and stuck the peep sight in.
    Also had to order a pile more bits and bobs!
     
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    Had lots of bows mate and they are good fun, crossbows too.
    Trad gear and compound.
    Compound are stupid accurate today.
    Shame about the hunting laws as with the right arrow head an arrow is a match to a bullet.

    Encourage your son, my daughter became an excellent shot.

    R.
     
  20. WifeWontLetMeGetanAirgun

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    And now I've ordered a Hoyt Ruckus for my 8 year old boy! He came along to coaching and loved it so we get to learn something new together!
    Did a bit of scoring and got a fair few 9s (and a couple of 10s) at 20 yards so an okay start.
    I've also got a few bits on the way - a new sight, scope and some other bits and bobs. I've cleared over a grand so far...!!
    But really enjoying it all.
    More coaching this Saturday.
     

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