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I Can Feel It Sucking Me In..

Discussion in 'Archery' started by cloverleaf, Jun 24, 2018.

  1. telephonepete

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    Since getting into youtube i have seen things done with catapults and hand guns that long ago stopped me from saying thats impossible. But that is quite mind blowing, and i cant quite believe what i have just seen.
     
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    When you sell your steyr to buy a bow, give me first dibs please:D

    Bb
     
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    A mate of mine is trying to get me to have a go at the local club open days, I'm holding out due to not really having enough interest yet. Asking what he uses, he said there are different bows with different draw strengths and a 50lb draw is enough for the distances he shoots. When in America, he found a great archery shop and asked if they had any 65lb bows, he was told he'd find some in the ladies section..:D He said the shop assistant had a chest like Tarzan and used 100lb bows..!
     
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    Ah, cheers! :thumb:
     
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    I'm only going to be using it in the back garden in the summer mate.
     
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    Squidwards Ghost Needs professional help.

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    Sorry BB..... "steyr"?
     
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    I wonder what they were using them for. :rolleyes:

    No need for anything near that power for target shooting, my limbs are in the 30's and fine for 70m.
     
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    I should have said when cloverleaf sells his steyr.

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  11. walter Often

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    Catapults are a great bit of kit. I have a large collection of them. I'm glad you've seen how "unbelievable" they are. With understanding of ammo weight to band set up, and plenty of practice to find your own comfortable stance etc.....they are deadly! I love showing off with one of mine. Lol.
    People don't realise how accurate and powerful they are in capable hands. My preferred set up is 30/20mm tapered theraband gold, with 9.5mm steel bearings , shooting with a TTF frame(through the forks). Upto and over 300fps. I have a catch box made from a cut in half water butt with 3 layers of old curtains hanging in the back of it. I can hit a red bull can everytime from 15 to 20 metres. Now I'm gonna show off mate...??? Lol...
    When I say red bull can? ....I don't just mean the can standing upright. That's too easy. I'm aiming at and hitting the bottom of the can!
    I'm handy with one for sure. I'll never starve if in a situation, put it that way. People are amazed when I demonstrate how deadly they are. But the master of the slingshot world is a fella called John Webb. He makes a living from it. Look him up mate. 'Gamekeeper catapults' ..
    I've got two of his frames. The 1st one I bought from him was the PPSG, then my son bought me the PPMG. They are made of aluminium and the shape of them is designed to sit in your hand perfectly. Get yourself into it mate. Its addictive for sure. If you decide you wanna have a go, and need any advice about it, get in touch and I'll help you. Go steady.
    Walter
     
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    Archery is extremely addictive (I have 18 bows at last count!), and also an extremely rewarding sport but it can be frustrating to begin with, and you need to decide if it is really for you before investing in kit.

    It generally has a poor retention rate out of beginners because it's not as easy as it looks, and it takes time to get consistent. The reason is that to get the best out of your equipment, it has to be matched to you and your shot and a lot of people buy equipment without knowing what they are getting.

    Take arrow selection for example. Arrow spine (stiffness) is critical to an accurate and repeatable shot and there are a world of variables that effect it such as arrow length, point weight, fletching size, draw length.. even the string material can change dynamic spine (lighter string, accelerates faster, makes the arrow act weaker) etc.

    If you are just going to be back garden shooting for fun, a simple bow and cheap arrows will do but if you intend for any kind of accuracy we always try our best to deter new archers from running out and buying equipment for a good few months. Use a club's equipment and focus on form. Settle down into a repeatable and strong shot sequence using the correct muscles and then once you are confident, start looking at your own equipment. Once you go through this first step and then buy kit that is fitted for you, your scores and accuracy will skyrocket quickly :)

    If you do stick with it and go for a takedown recurve, put all your available money into the riser (the handle) as this will be with you the longest. Buy cheap limbs to start with as they will be replaced and upgraded as you increase your draw weight. When you settle on a given poundage, you can upgrade to higher quality ones.

    Be careful not to go for too high a draw weight. A lot of beginners do this and end up overbowed, unable to cope. Start low and build up gradually.Power is nothing without control ;)
     
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    Nice write up mate. Everything you are saying also applies to shooting with a slingshot /catapult. Understanding the Balance between your chosen ammo weight and the best power set up to match the two perfectly, find your anchor and reference point that suits you alone. Then once you have found this perfect match......stick to it every single time you take a shot.
     
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    Go for it Mike,

    You only live once anther great hobby cant be a bad thing, who knows, we may even see you out hunting rabbits at some point.

    Happy days.
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    Les.
     
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    For the time being I'm loving the simplicity of a decent recurve, however if I get into it I can see how the additional performance of a compound would appeal. Having looked at some of the gear available there's so much choice, I'd not have a clue where to start. Hopefully there are some decent European / even British makes as all the yank stuff seems typically over-priced as usual. @cloverleaf

    Not sure if you’re still fancying archery Mike, but if you are and want something British take a look at the Mybo range of bows. They do recurve and compounds. I have the Mybo origin compound bow and it’s fantastic. Keeps up with any of the overpriced American gear. I was going to let it go as I’m using a hunting recurve for the 3D shooting, a samick discovery, my compound is set up for target but I’m going to change it to a 3D set up now and use that too. It’s great fun and probably the best type of archery, I’ve a couple of threads going and some pics up. If you want any advice or help then just drop me a message. Happy to help. My bows below.

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    With a bow? :facepalm:
     
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    Mike, I've done recurve with my son and self bows which I constructed myself and now onto compounds with my work colleague. The recurves are simple to use but require more strength while aiming because you have the full force of the bow on your body at all times. The compounds have a valley at the end of the draw and in the case of my bow 75% of the draw weight is removed. My bow is set at 55LB but while I aim I've only got 14LB of the bows force on my body. This makes life easier and your accuracy improves by a massive amount. The good thing about being an ex air rifle hunter is that I can use my old permissions for bow shooting after I asked about. Our standard improves week on week and it's all been self taught by watching dozens and dozens of archery vids. I'm absolutely loving it Mike.
     
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    I love the vintage wood/glass recurve bows. The top one is a Marten X-100 20# that my 11 year-old grand daughter likes to shoot. It was made in the early 1970s. The middle one is a Shakespeare Trident 30# made in 1967. The bottom one is a Hoyt Pro-Medalist #5 30# made in 1970. It was the bow of choice for the Olympics for a number of years. The aluminum extensions are for balance.
    The Hoyt weighs too much for me, and holding it up after 15 minutes becomes a challenge for this 77 year-old. I shoot much better with the Shakespeare, and can do 30 arrows easily thumbnail (4).jpg . I paid $100. for the Martin on eBay, $125. for the Trident at a antique shop, and $350. for the Hoyt on eBay.
     
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    I did archery for ten years and enjoyed it immensely I even represented the uk in the first European bow hunter championships in confolens France. ( i came 36th out of 120) the only reason I gave it was the club politics and bickering. I had a barnet excorcet compound and the sold that and got a martin firecat which was set at about 65lbs which was good for at least 120 meters. Which was needed for the round at padget de vascy as one shot was over a lake :shrug:
     
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    If its a starter compound you wont go far wrong with a Diamond Infinite Edge Kit, I shot for 30 years and have 4 bows I cant use anymore due to a neurological injury, bought a Infinite edge to rehab with and its been brilliant. Adjustable from very low poundage to 60lb ish and draw length has a huge adjustment range as well.
     

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