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Hw95k Or Standard 95

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by ChrisR7676, Jul 16, 2020.

  1. ChrisR7676

    ChrisR7676 Active Member

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    I’m currently looking for my first air rifle to own, but have used them lots over the years. I would say I’m a BSA fan because of my old mans Airsporter S but it seems the name is being dragged down with some quality issues of recent years, even if the guns are aesthetically pleasing.

    This has moved me from looking at the BSA Lightning se xl and more towards the Weihrauch Hw95k.

    The reviews seem all positive for the HW95k and was wondering if I could get some advise on this specific gun first hand. I’m more looking at the .22 but could be persuaded towards the .177. I mainly shoot rabbits and a few pigeons and shoot without any stands with a scope etc.

    Furthermore, does anyone have one or know someone selling one?

    Cheers
     
  2. robs5230

    robs5230 Oversprung

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    Personally, I'd rather have a full length barrel.
    Shot cycle can be made smoother as the longer barrel is more efficient. Its also shorter than the one with the 310mm barrel and silencer
     
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    ChrisR7676 Active Member

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    I always thought there wasn’t much more benefit over 300mm in length especially at under 12ft/lbs. But that’s just what I’ve read on this gun.
     
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    robs5230 Oversprung

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    What you've read isn't correct. The 16" barrel is considerably more power efficient.
    Though both the 12 and 16 barrels will both make legal limit power, the 16" does it easier, so gives a nicer shooting rifle
     
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    Curlyhunter.22 Better to be p****d off the p****d on.

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    Slight hi-jack...

    What is the difference between the 95 and I think 98 the ones with the same stocks?

    CC
     
  6. ChrisR7676

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    Ah right I see. Well thanks for explaining why
     
  7. robs5230

    robs5230 Oversprung

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    The 98 is a 95 action with a fancy stock and a shrouded barrel.
     
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    It's not a shroud really it's a sleeve for weight
     
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    I've always had 95k's I find them the best break barrel always gone for the carbine as I like the little thud and not crack when fired
     
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    Have you got one currently? It seems like the gun I want sub £400 (Hw95k) and the in-line reviews seem very promising. Just need my own one to go get rabbits
     
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    Geezer Big Poster

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    Full length. Less hold sensitive because of the added forward weight, and a bit more power for a given power plant, which also makes it less hold sensitive. .22” will be a bit nicer than .177” and not a disadvantage at sensible (25-30M max) springer ranges.

    If you want a K, whack the heaviest (within reason) muzzle device on it that you can find.
     
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    I certainly do its my longest serving rifle I've spent a pretty penny over the years too to get it how a want it I've just another stock to get now but waiting for the right one to come along

    I've had all 4 cals too and I reckon the .22 is the best for my needs but I do like the .25 cal also
     
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    rich79 No deep or funny comment here

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    I have a 95k in .22, they're very good guns and should shoot well in any barrel length.
    I wouldn't worry too much about shot cycle & the power, get the one that feels nicer in your shoulder, power & shot cycle can be made to how you want it later on with tuning kits etc.
    But if the gun doesn't feel right when it's in your shoulder then adding or removing weight from the muzzle is going to have a limited effect on balance etc.
    Get the one that feels right & suits your shooting.
     
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    Get the 177 with full length barrel and enjoy the delights of open sights whilst your eyes are young enough to use them. Better to have scope as an option rather than requirement. I shoot a 95K in 22, although it's a fine gun I suspect the idea of cropping the barrel and adding a silencer came from the marketing men rather than the engineers.
     
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    rabbitwrecker Black Latex Matters...

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    I'd go with full length over moderated carbine every time. Also, have you considered the 99s as an alternative to the 95? (I think it's a better rifle)...
     
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    I don’t know that much of the 99s. I have seen lots of people suggest them though like the 95 but I don’t know what the advantages and disadvantages are. I’m mostly shooting rabbits at a reasonable distance so whatever would be best really.
     
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    The internals of the 99s are just right for running sub-12. The 95 was designed to run +12 and is gelded for the UK market. This means that you're carrying a bigger, heavier and more expensive gun than necessary. Some prefer the extra bulk, but many who own both models will tell you that the 99s is easier to shoot accurately. The .177 99s that I use is the most accurate springer that I've ever had - and there's been a few.

    No doubt some of the less enlightened will be along shortly to tell you about the 99s galling issue. They will tell you that every 99s will suffer from the problem - utter BS, neither of mine have shown any signs of galling, even after many thousands of pellets through each of them. There is however, the potential for a problem, but the smart folk here will be happy to tell you about the galling prevention/fix.

    I would happily buy another 99s, even if I knew it need a minor fettle from new. In my opinion, it's the best break-barrel sporter bar none...
     
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    PaulBB Never Knowingly Undershot

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    It’s the 95k for me in .22
    Still sad I sold mine.
     
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    I seem to be going more towards the 95k still. Is there any benefit or disadvantage from the standard 95 with the longer barrel with no moderator (with muzzle weight). I like the 95k with the shorter barrel and moderator on but if I could fit a decent moderator on the longer barrel 95 then I might be more swayed that way.
     
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    Cheers for all the info on both. I can understand the benefits of both guns and especially under the U.K. power limit. I think it may come down to holding and shooting feel. May have to try and test out both guns
     

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